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OJ's guilty All the Ramsey's are innocent. Komodozer check out that razor you haven't said one nice thing about any Ramsey. Your ready to burn them all at the stake including 9 year old Burke
Most people's theory's on here are so far off the rails and in out left field it amazes me. Science and facts cleared them. 2 different DA's cleared them and they got a letter of apology. Too bad Patsy was already in the ground at that time
Oh, really?! So, the ransom note was written to freak out the parents, and there was no intention of ever collecting any $?!
We have no idea what their intention was, but it was doubtful that it was to "freak out" anyone. Those people didn't care what they did, which was obvious by the way JonBenet ended up.
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In the history of kidnapping, has anyone EVER written a ransom note that wasn't 100% serious?! I seriously doubt it.
I must have forgotten that you thought the ransom note was written coherently.
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Are you serious?! He clearly stated that in an LE interview that is shown in the first DI JBR episode.
I just read in the National Enquirer that OJ may be innocent. Should I believe it?
I thought it was the parents at first too, I still haven't 'cleared,' them in my head but after going over tons of interviews they did, I'm just not sure.
It sure didn't look like they were searching for the killer though. Their interviews were more to prove their own innocence. If it were me, I would've lost my ****, stood up and said "you mother****ers! I did not kill my kid!! Now let's find who did this, now!!" which I guess is what Patsy did in the one interview minus the cussing. I probably would've jumped up and down and started screaming.
Lots of damage control here, along with, well, let's just call them "inaccuracies". An obvious one was the discussion of whether or not JonBenet was sexually abused prior to her murder. A reading of the autopsy report makes it clear that someone had "interfered" with her - the physical evidence- scarring, partly healed recent injury and other damage to her genitals - was clear.
Hardly.
More evidence (previous thread) on the lack of findings of any previous sexual abuse:
"On November 5, Detective Weinheimer arrived in St. Clair Shores, Michigan, to meet Dr. Werner Spitz, one of the world's foremost forensic pathologists. Weinheimer took with him a stack of black-and-white photographs of the cellulose that coroner John Meyer had found in JonBenet's vagina. Weinheimer wanted to discuss not only the cellulose but also the probable chronology of events leading up to JonBenet's murder. The detective told Spitz about the pineapple found in her small intestine, which might be an indicator of the time of death. Spitz said he would have to examine the slides of the cellulose before he could state anything definitively. He was willing to go to Boulder, he said. Ten days later, Weinheimer and Spitz met with Tom Faure, the coroner's chief medical investigator, at Boulder Community Hospital. By then Weinheimer had already consulted with another specialist, Dr. David Jones, a professor of preventive medicine and biometrics at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center.
Spitz examined the four slides of tissue taken from JonBenet's vaginal area and discussed with Weinheimer and Faure what the coroner had observed about the head injury, strangulation, and vaginal cavity. After viewing the slides, Spitz repeated his opinion: the injury to JonBenet's vagina had happened either at or immediately prior to her death-not earlier."
I'm not sure if I like(d) them. Initially I suspected them of their daughter's murder, or at the least, covering up for someone they knew who did it. Now, after reading about this case for years, I no longer believe that any evidence points to them at all.
I tend to agree that the actual evidence does not point at them and I don't think they committed the murder. The police totally bungled this case, but the Ramseys did say and do some strange things.
I don't understand why PR was in the same clothes the morning after the murder. She stuck me as a fastidious dresser who would never wear the same outfit 2 days in a row, leading to the question if she ever went to bed.
I don't understand calling friends/neighbors and contaminating the evidence of your child's kidnapping.
I don't understand the whole bit about JR and BR being in the basement with the flashlight playing with the train set. That is an amazing coincidence.
I don't understand why every inch of the house was not carefully searched for JBR right at the very beginning.
I don't believe PR was peeking through her fingers at the police while crying. In fact, I think the BPD put out many falsehoods to the point of slander.
No, I would not "like" them personally. I have no respect for parents who engage their children in the child pageant world. Just too creepy and disgusting, and usually done for the ego of the parents. Have you seen many of the mothers involved? Enough said.
Am I the only one who actually liked/like John and Patsy Ramsey, don't think they had anything to do with JonBenet's death, and think they were truthful?
For years I thought BDI but looking at it again with an open mind.... I think it was someone like FW (or one of their very rich well regarded friends) caught in the act with JB/or caught with a dead JB. Maybe the blow to the head was part of her fighting back. The Ramsey's wanting to save their friend (and positions in society/community) staged everything to cover it up.
I think it is as simple as that. The rich or well to do in Boulder looking out for each other. If she was already dead while it is sad and awful maybe they thought it best to just end it there. No trials, no secrets getting out, etc. Just stage it all to make it go away? Also, this person could have had "dirt" on the Ramsey's, we know there was some things about them that came out later.
For Burke to have done it PR & JR would have had to finish off JB. I just don't see that. I have no doubt the Ramsey's could be weird and creepy people but JB's death was gruesome. I just can't see it from the parents. But I can see stage Mom PR setting up this elaborate death scene, the note etc so that JB could have a death that wasn't just some creepy pedo leaving her in the basement. This could also tie back to the IDI theory. She did find JB in the basement as wasn't having any of that.... so she set it all up to make it an event she thought was fitting for her place in society.
I never met any of the Ramsey's but watching the interviews I don't think I would be friends with Patsy. I think she was a stage mother and people said she smothered JB. Also those pagents are gross and obviously Patsy reliving her pagent days. John is a introvert like me and seems like a nice normal guy. BUT I don't think either of them brutally tortured and killed their daughter.
Of course the media would say this. It increases ratings.
Oh, so you're saying the the Ramsey's weren't friends with the White's; that they weren't there for dinner/a party on Christmas day; that the White's weren't at the house on the 26th for moral support?! This is all correct, true, and well-documented info.
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I just read in the National Enquirer that OJ may be innocent. Should I believe it?
Reading something is one thing; hearing someone say something is entirely different. In the LE interview (shown in the first DI JBR episode earlier this week), JR clearly threw PW under the bus & stated that he suspected her re: the crime. There is no way he didn't say this - it's extremely clear.
For years I thought BDI but looking at it again with an open mind.... I think it was someone like FW (or one of their very rich well regarded friends) caught in the act with JB/or caught with a dead JB. Maybe the blow to the head was part of her fighting back. The Ramsey's wanting to save their friend (and positions in society/community) staged everything to cover it up.
Yes, it's pretty obvious the Ramseys lied and staged a cover-up, but in order to protect FW?
That makes no sense.
Always remember, folks: a Grand Jury looked at ALL the evidence, and decided to indict the Ramseys. The incredibly incompetent and corrupt DA's office refused to prosecute, as the ID documentary pointed out.
If anyone, Patsy. She's only guilty of writing a ransom note cover up.
The ransom note has been analyzed to death, and they found Patsy's particular speech patterns in it. The thing that gets me about that, is if I, or another member of my family had just committed murder on my kid, my hands would be shaking so badly that I wouldn't be able to write.
I love my son. Very much. He's the best person I know, but if he killed someone, I could not write a ransom note with steady hands. I'm not saying Burke did it. We will never know. It's just one of these details that kind of tap you on the shoulder.
Oh, and since we are throwing theories out there, the lack of sperm suggests a young sex offender. I worked with a lady whose son molested his three year old sister and a cousin. With crayons and markers and whatever. He was ten.
I don't know what happened. It was all bad, and I'm certain that little girl didn't deserve this. I didn't see the Dr. Phil special. I don't think I will. I don't like that smirking jerk very much.
And I already know why you know, Virgode.
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