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Old 01-16-2023, 06:13 AM
 
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Why the British press can be particularly nasty is another issue, one that really has nothing to do with Meghan.
Does Harry remember that others besides Meghan have also been the target of the British press? Waity Katie, Duchess of Pork and of course his own mother was targeted. Camilla and Charles endured Tampon-gate when their private conversation was leaked.

This article sums up all that Kate and William went through with the tabloids which Harry seems to conveniently forget to spin his highly profitable victim narrative. His spin is that no one in the RF came to their rescue. He seems to forget that it happened to all of them as well. The RF knows that ignoring it is the best tactic and in due time the tabloids will move on to something or someone else.

https://bestlifeonline.com/news-william-kate-media/

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a...dal-the-crown/

This won't be the end of it by any means. I think Harry is just getting started selling his 'wares.'

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Old 01-16-2023, 07:41 AM
 
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So on CBS again, a morning show...(I don't have the book) ...They were praising Harry in interviews
with Brits that Harry is the conscience of the world exposing slavery - that the Royals have made
their wealth from enslaving others!
They said apart from his personal stuff...this seemed like a very good thing to finally expose.
I do, too!!!

Reminds me of the secrets of the Vatican ... how about an open apology to the world, Royals?
And reparations?
Or will you be silent thinking it will blow over?

Oh, I see Mrs. Sheridan also brought up 'ignoring'.
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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So on CBS again, a morning show...(I don't have the book) ...They were praising Harry in interviews
with Brits that Harry is the conscience of the world exposing slavery - that the Royals have made
their wealth from enslaving others!
They said apart from his personal stuff...this seemed like a very good thing to finally expose.
I do, too!!!
Then maybe now is the time for Harry to give up his title. After all, he certainly wouldn't want to be associated with such a family and surely he wouldn't want to make a cent from his associations with them.
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:58 AM
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So on CBS again, a morning show...(I don't have the book) ...They were praising Harry in interviews
with Brits that Harry is the conscience of the world exposing slavery - that the Royals have made
their wealth from enslaving others!
They said apart from his personal stuff...this seemed like a very good thing to finally expose.
I do, too!!!

Reminds me of the secrets of the Vatican ... how about an open apology to the world, Royals?
And reparations?
Or will you be silent thinking it will blow over?

Oh, I see Mrs. Sheridan also brought up 'ignoring'.
In terms of slavery, it was never legal in the UK, whilst the transatlantic slave trade was banned by the UK Parliament in 1807 and slavery was abolished throughout Empire in 1832 by a further act of Parliament.

I think it's worth noting that the following events were important events in terms of curtailing the power of Monarchy whilst establishing an independent Parliament, Laws and Legal System in terms of England and later Britain.

It's also worth noting that the UK Monarchy is not an absolute Monarchy, and that after the Royalists were defeated by the Parliamentarians during the Civil War power and decision making lay with parliament, and not with the Monarchy.

The idea that the Monarchy ruled Britain is nonsense, and today most Royal Money comes from the Crown Estate, Duchy of Cornwall, Duchy of Lancaster and Sovereign grant, and it has nothing to do with slavery.

Magna Carta 1215

The monarchy basically started losing material power with King John of England signing the Magna Carta [1215], which led to the rule of constitutional law in England. Translation: the beginning of the end of absolutism in royal rule in England. This was just 149 years after the Norman Conquest under William I.

English Civil War 1642-51 and Commonwealth of England/The Protectorate 1651-60

The monarchy continued to lose power by turns in the years since Magna Carta, culminating in the English Civil War. The Commonwealth of England (later, the Protectorate for the whole of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland) replaced the monarchy under Charles I of England, Scotland and Ireland. (We can safely generalise Charles I was a British monarch, even though history books conventionally identify him as "of England.")

The Restoration 1660

With the end of the Commonwealth/Protectorate in 1658-60, the monarchy was restored under King Charles II of England, Scotland and Ireland. However, Parliament limited Charles II's royal prerogative powers on constitutional grounds that he had no right to arbitrarily suspend laws enacted by Parliament. Translation: further loss of royal power.

The Glorious Revolution 1688

King James II of England and Ireland (and as James VII of Scotland) was overthrown by Parliamentary forces in a joint operation with Dutch forces under William of Orange, who then became "King Billy": William III of England, Scotland and Ireland (in addition to being Stadtholder of various areas in the Dutch Republic). But during William III's reign (jointly with Mary II), there was resistance to his/their validity to the throne (which is too involved to explain here).

United Kingdom 1707-1800 / 1801-1927 / 1921-today

The most prominent political feature of the UK that diluted the power of the monarchy was the Reform Act 1832 refashioned the British electoral system and extended the franchise. Translation: more power to the people and parliament.
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:16 AM
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As for Slavery, Africans, Middle Eastern countries and Arab Muslims were engaging in it long before the western world.

The people of India were also enslaved as part of the Mughal Islamic Empire for numerous centuries, and even today there is a lot of ill feeling between the Hindu's and Sikhs and the Muslims.

Whilst what is now England and the UK, was subject to the best part of 1,000 years of occupation and enslavement by the Romans, Anglo Saxons, Vikings (Danelaw), as well as the Norman Conquest and numerous other historic events.

As for Slavery it still exists and it's worth noting that Qatar used virtual slavery to build World Cup stadiums and other infrastructure, resulting in up to 6,750 deaths, however I don't hear any apologies from FIFA.

Ten years of hurt: how the Guardian reported Qatar’s World Cup working conditions - The Guardian


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zHz...ist=LL&index=1

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Old 01-16-2023, 08:20 AM
 
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Reminds me of the secrets of the Vatican ... how about an open apology to the world, Royals?
And reparations?
Or will you be silent thinking it will blow over?
Then the royals should grab a ticket and get in line. How many other countries and institutions around the world have a dark history of oppressing others? What a long queue that would be.
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:32 AM
 
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As for Slavery, Africans and Arab Muslims were engaging in it long before the western world.

Slavery still exists and Qatar used slavery to build World Cup stadiums and other infrastructure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zHz...ist=LL&index=1
Exactly, it boggles the mind how this is so often IGNORED. The reality is that humans have a dark history of enslaving other humans which still tragically occurs today in some places, to your point.
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Old 01-16-2023, 08:54 AM
 
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Exactly, it boggles the mind how this is so often IGNORED. The reality is that humans have a dark history of enslaving other humans which still tragically occurs today in some places, to your point.
And, it was the English Navy which prevented/stopped the Africans from selling their own people at a very high cost/lose of life to the English sailors.

Slavery has been practiced since the beginning of time in every single continent. The American Indians had slaves, native South Americans, the Asians and everyone else in-between practiced slavery. Even today, some consumer products are made by modern day slaves. Are we any better?
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Old 01-16-2023, 10:03 AM
 
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Watching Harry William and Kate a few years ago I think Harry was quite besotted with Catherine... always thought it..and would have loved a girlfriend like her..
He writes as much in the book.
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Old 01-18-2023, 09:09 AM
 
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So I finished the book. In my opinion, people should **** and refrain commenting until they actually sit down and read the thing.
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