Am I alone in hating Montgomery County? (Rockville, North Beach: how much, neighborhoods)

[Mister Zen]

Originally Posted by stoutboy

I avoid any forays into Maryland if at all possible. Unfortunately, I was just in Rockville yesterday and discovered that supermarkets in Maryland apparently do not sell beer/wine. People, that is no way to live. Just another reason to hate Maryland.

That is not a Maryland thing.. it is a Montgomery County thing.

[stoutboy]

I shouldn't have to google anything to find the one Giant or whatever in Maryland that got around the state's ridiculous alcohol laws. I should be able to buy beer in any store that would like to sell it. At least that is the way life works, thankfully, in the great majority of this country.

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

A major assumption from such a small sample. There are many grocery stores in Maryland that sell beer/wine. Google is your friend.

Originally Posted by Mister Zen

That is not a Maryland thing.. it is a Montgomery County thing.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by stoutboy

I shouldn't have to google anything to find the one Giant or whatever in Maryland that got around the state's ridiculous alcohol laws. I should be able to buy beer in any store that would like to sell it. At least that is the way life works, thankfully, in the great majority of this country.

And I guess there is no place for those people that make a living selling wine, liquor, and beer then? Some laws are created to protect small businesses against large corporations, like Wal-Mart, who can and have put them out of business. Sometimes there is a method to what you may see as madness.

Therefore, every grocer doesn't have to sell wine, beer, and liquor. You are more than welcome to go to a wine shop or a liquor store for those items. Honestly, I didn't know that finding these items in this area would be so inconvenient for someone. lol

[stoutboy]

I wasn't aware that I owed every specialty profession a living. If that is your argument for Maryland, you guys have some odd loyalties. I hadn't realized mom and pop liquor shops were the backbone of Maryland's economy. Too bad you didn't show the same concern for the corner grocer, the neighborhood butcher, drugstore, hardware stores etc., that big chains like Giant, Walmart et. al have largely replaced.

Originally Posted by adelphi_sky

And I guess there is no place for those people that make a living selling wine, liquor, and beer then? Some laws are created to protect small businesses against large corporations, like Wal-Mart, who can and have put them out of business. Sometimes there is a method to what you may see as madness.

Therefore, every grocer doesn't have to sell wine, beer, and liquor. You are more than welcome to go to a wine shop or a liquor store for those items. Honestly, I didn't know that finding these items in this area would be so inconvenient for someone. lol

[North Beach Person]

Liquor laws are generally under the purview of the individual County's Liquor Board using general State guidelines. Some allow alcohol to be sold in grocery or convenience stores while others don't.

Also, in the case of a company with multiple outlets, only one in a County is permitted to carry alcohol. That carries over to restaurants in some areas.

[kcmo]

Originally Posted by LunaticVillage

What planet are you from?

Montgomery County still is an enclave of white wealth. Yeah, you're right, Potomac, Bethesda, Kensington and Chevy Chase are all on the downhill slide and turning into Langley Park. Salvadorans are shacking up 300 deep in million dollar homes in Chevy Chase. Run for the hills.

You obviously were raised in the shockingly wealthy and white MoCo bubble or somewhere similar and don't even know what its like on the other side of the beltway.

And if it weren't for the "illegal immigrants" in MoCo, who would fix your coffee at Dunkin' Donuts or your burrito at Chipotle, cut your lawn and fix your roof at your mini mansion and fix the potholes in the roads you travel to and from "work"? Central American immigrants are the backbone of the working class in Montgomery County and Northern Virginia. And the working class is not called the working class for no reason because they actually break a sweat and keep the wheels of the world running while yuppies are pushing paper or helping a rich white guy get richer. The Central American immigrant class are the ones really working while desk jockeys surf porn downtown in DC all day and they continue to work late into the evening when degree snobs are red-faced drunk at pricey douchey bars in the District after hours.

Central American immigrants are often demonized and stereotyped as violent gang members in Montgomery County. However, real gang violence in MoCo is pretty much nonexistent. Central Americans come here to work jobs that white people refuse to work. MS-13 and other Central American gangs operate more like the mafia in MoCo, if they are truly active at all. Yes, you may have occasional fights and stabbings between gang members at seedy Mexican bars and clubs in Wheaton and Silver Spring, but thats about it.

MS-13 Gang Strong in Montgomery, Prince George's Counties - Government - Kensington, MD Patch

I'm from California, and nowhere, I mean nowhere, in Montgomery County rivals the level of carnage and mayhem you see there amongst Central American gangs. In California cities, Central American gangsters shoot each other up with military issue rifles in drive by shootings in broad daylight on at least a monthly basis. Where in Montgomery County does this happen, ever? Most Central American gangsters came to Montgomery County to live a much quieter safer life and ultimately escape the relentless street violence of Central America and California.

And please, "poverty" in Montgomery County is laughable. Montgomery county has excellent public transportation and housing even in "poorer" areas. Crime in Montgomery County is a joke compared to inner beltway PG County, NE/SE DC, Baltimore City and any real inner city ghetto area in America. Even in primarily black Section 8 areas in Montgomery County, crime is very low and is often petty when it happens. You have a few unemployed young black dudes nickle and dime hustling weed and maybe a little bit of coke who might intimidate pedestrians out of pocket money or jump you for your brand new Air Jordans. But thats the extent of the crime in Section 8 areas in MoCo and HoCo.

Great post.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by Mister Zen

I don't think you know the definition of poverty if you are calling any part of Montgomery county "impoverished".

Poverty is relative. If you are comparing it to poverty in Central America, you would be correct. But since that's not a relevant comparison, then all you've said here is absolutely nothing.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by diablo234

Yeah, you have to wonder about these people who say that any part of the DC region is impoverished let alone Montgomery County.

If you want to see "real" poverty just head into the Deep South, Appalachia or any Indian Reservation.

Since you appear to not know, click the link and educate yourself.

Watch poverty suburbanize in Montgomery County - Greater Greater Washington

http://nonprofitroundtable.org/blog/...f-poverty-moco

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by ABQ1

It looks like you're saying that the planet earth wasn't meant for the weak and poor;and that we should all stop pretending like the weak and poor belongs. Every evidence suggests that you may be very right. And this mindset drives many of the responses to inquiries here - "avoid this area, move to this area, this area is hail and that area is heaven, etc."

This challenges the so called Creationists and believers who still hang on to God being there for all of us. He/She has to since he did it, but he's completely disengaged from the earth. I am sure that the sincere advocates for the weak and poor are very frustrated by the whole thing - unless their advocacy is secular.

In the meantime, the so called religionists and Christian fundamentalists to who Creationism is sacrosanct, are the most hateful to the weak and poor and the most racist - at least we can see that by the policies they support and that which they're against.

Some of those questions that no one wants to ask, unless you're a Richard Dawkins or a Christopher Hitchens.

You're calling Montgomery liberals fake Christians and hypocrites? LOL

Not very often around here do liberals get attacked for their religion (or lack thereof)!

But I have to say that I agree with you in theory. Liberals love to look down their noses at everyone else. It's engrained in their ideology. I've said for a very long time that liberalism and Christianity cannot go hand in hand because of their stance on social ills.....which is that they love to tells us how we need to "take care of the downtrodden and aggrieved......as long as it's not in my backyard!"

This sums up Montgomery County perfectly!

[Mister Zen]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

Poverty is relative. If you are comparing it to poverty in Central America, you would be correct. But since that's not a relevant comparison, then all you've said here is absolutely nothing.

Wrong.

Poverty is not relative at all. Who told you that?