08-06-2012, 10:49 AM
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Get outta here. Really?
That's a stretch. Thousands of agriculture jobs? What are they doing down there? Growing produce at the race track? I'm finding it hard to connect slots to agriculture jobs. I really am.
People who love horse races will continue to go to the racetracks. If Penn National can't survive on horse racing alone, perhaps they need a new business. If lots is needed to prop up horse racing which is needed to prop up thousands of agriculture jobs, well, that's a sad situation.
I'm going out on a limb here, cause it seems they are too. But I could almost guarantee that if National Harbor never got MGM or slots, that Rosecroft would still loose business to Maryland Live. Just a hunch.
Here's another hunch. MGM doesn't have horse races. I would imagine that MGM and Penn National could partner somehow. Just thinking.
But this whole ordeal is baffling. I have never heard a bunch of whining business people in my life. Were they promised something by someone? And if so, who would believe any promise from a politician? Especially when more potential state county revenue is flashing in their eyes. If the people of the state of Maryland want 6 casinos, who can these gaming companies blame?
The needs of the state are way bigger than the needs of a few casinos. Competition is good. There are winners and losers. Bring your A game next time.
I think the agricultural jobs are referring to the horse breeding industry and their is an impact to it but, as much as I feel for the industry, it is dying in MD and I don't see how maintaining a few racetracks is going to sustain it over time.
There premise is a stretch and definitely a stunt to add to the doom and gloom dramatics of gaming expansion. Its interesting that they only mention MD casinos but say nothing about the losses that they have had as a result of PA and DE casinos (both states with full-fledge casinos) whose facilities border the Perryville site and was why MD chose it as a site in the first place (although they have failed to be competitive since its slots only).
Another thought that I had was it they were to get a license for Rosecroft wouldn't Perryville still suffer at the ownership of another property that they own. Would that be acceptable because they would own both? Would they try to sell the Perryville license once the Rosecroft license was secured? How negatively would the MD gaming program suffer if they shift their marketing efforts towards the site that is more viable and abandon the other as a loss (which is feasable).
I agree that competition is the basis of the U.S. economy and most business owners/corporations understand that and don't whine half as much as I have seen in this industry within the MD borders. I understand that a business strategy would be to do whatever possible to stop additional competition. But expansion is inevitable (be it the national harbor or somewhere elese). That said, resources would be best served ramping up their marketing strategies to accomodate new competion in the marketplace.
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08-07-2012, 08:39 AM
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Please let Penn National bid for the casino. They'll loose anyway. Even if I was financially invested in Rosecroft raceway I would see the writing on the wall. It is hard to beat National Harbor's location. I googled Rosecroft's location. There's no competition. If a survey went out to the county without naming a location for the casino, I can almost guarantee that residents would suggest National Harbor. It just fits with the atmosphere there. I mean they have a huge convention center there. Can you say cha-ching? I'm sure gambling conventions exist. :-)
08-07-2012, 08:48 AM
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Please let Penn National bid for the casino. They'll loose anyway. Even if I was financially invested in Rosecroft raceway I would see the writing on the wall. It is hard to beat National Harbor's location. I googled Rosecroft's location. There's no competition. If a survey went out to the county without naming a location for the casino, I can almost guarantee that residents would suggest National Harbor. It just fits with the atmosphere there. I mean they have a huge convention center there. Can you say cha-ching? I'm sure gambling conventions exist. :-)
You know what, I think a telephone survey went out some months back, because I recall receiving a phone call. I didn't have enough facts to lean one way or the other at the time, so I didn't get all the questions.
08-07-2012, 09:31 AM
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Please let Penn National bid for the casino. They'll loose anyway. Even if I was financially invested in Rosecroft raceway I would see the writing on the wall. It is hard to beat National Harbor's location. I googled Rosecroft's location. There's no competition. If a survey went out to the county without naming a location for the casino, I can almost guarantee that residents would suggest National Harbor. It just fits with the atmosphere there. I mean they have a huge convention center there. Can you say cha-ching? I'm sure gambling conventions exist. :-)
Months and months ago Mel Franklin did a survey for/of his constituents of what their thoughts were on a 6th site and its location... Rosecroft actually beat out National Harbor... I went to a town hall meeting last night that Senator Muse put on to get district 26 residents opinions. Citizens of the 26th district did not seem to be be very please with National Harbor in a hole... and many of them also spoke up to say they would prefer it at Rosecroft over National Harbor...
08-07-2012, 10:22 AM
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Months and months ago Mel Franklin did a survey for/of his constituents of what their thoughts were on a 6th site and its location... Rosecroft actually beat out National Harbor... I went to a town hall meeting last night that Senator Muse put on to get district 26 residents opinions. Citizens of the 26th district did not seem to be be very please with National Harbor in a hole ... and many of them also spoke up to say they would prefer it at Rosecroft over National Harbor...
What does that mean? Geographically?
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Sorry guess my brain and fingers don't want to work together very much today... The citizens that I heard speak just didn't have very many nice things to say about National Harbor.
08-07-2012, 11:25 AM
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Sorry guess my brain and fingers don't want to work together very much today... The citizens that I heard speak just didn't have very many nice things to say about National Harbor.
Dayum. Uhhh. Is there someplace better in the county right now? I don't hear people saying, "Hey, let's go to Glassmanor to hang out and get a bite to eat. Hell, College Park, a college town that is supposed to have bars and good places to eat, can't even compete.
A hotel/casino on a hill overlooking the Potomac with views to Old town and DC with water taxis to Georgetown and Old Town. Or, Glassmanor.
Yeah. National Harbor is a piece of crap.
08-07-2012, 12:12 PM
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Dayum. Uhhh. Is there someplace better in the county right now? I don't hear people saying, "Hey, let's go to Glassmanor to hang out and get a bite to eat. Hell, College Park, a college town that is supposed to have bars and good places to eat, can't even compete.
A hotel/casino on a hill overlooking the Potomac with views to Old town and DC with water taxis to Georgetown and Old Town. Or, Glassmanor.
Yeah. National Harbor is a piece of crap.
You still don't get it. How are the local benefiting from NH? They are closed out by a huge fence, they have to pay a huge amount for parking and they have to go out of their way just to get there. What makes the development, any different to them than Old Town Alexandria or downtown DC. Most people who have a development like that near them would want it to have some level of convenience. They have done very little to implement the local community. It is extremely isolated.
That's the real issue here.
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You still don't get it. How are the local benefiting from NH? They are closed out by a huge fence, they have to pay a huge amount for parking and they have to go out of their way just to get there. What makes the development, any different to them than Old Town Alexandria or downtown DC. Most people who have a development like that near them would want it to have some level of convenience. They have done very little to implement the local community. It is extremely isolated.
NH is bounded on three sides. One side is the river. The other is 495. The goal and intent of National Harbor was to be a riverfront development. at the edge of Ft. Washington. not in the MIDDLE of Ft. Washington. I'm not sure how else it could work. HOw would you integrate NH into Ft. Washington to make it accessible to the "locals?"
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People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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