So no masks for the vaccinated (or those pretending)... which are going mask-free? (Issaquah: guidelines, businesses)

[ChessieMom]

Originally Posted by jlud

Correlation is not causation. I imagine a lot of habits of yours besides a mask changed...am I right? More hand washing, less travel, less public interaction, etc etc? The mask is just one part...

However you are certainly free to wear it as long as you want, no one saying you can’t or even trying to stop you to make the best choice for yourself.

Actually masking was pretty much my main change. My parents were very sick and actually passed away this summer, so I interacted with them and healthcare workers and family and was in hospitals and all of that…including 2 funerals. Really was not able to do a whole lot of social distancing. So for me, masks were pretty much it. As far as I am concerned, my own experience has proven to me that masks are extremely effective.

[jlud]

Very sorry to hear that about your parents, glad you were at least able to interact with them though. My condolences, and completely respect what your experiences have taught you.

[Diana Holbrook]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

You do know that there are still people who can not be vaccinated and those people tend to have families who are trying to be careful of them. Young children still can not be vaccinated and there are other vulnerable people who have issues that prevent their being vaccinated.

I've got a tenant who has two preschool children with a bone marrow disease. Even when the vaccine is approved for their age, they still won't be able to have the vaccine.

Vaccine isn't rainbows and unicorns and one size fits absolutely everybody. Not everyone is going to be able to seek protection by vaccination, so some people are going to have to continue to practice caution.

Of course I know not everyone can or will be vaccinated. Yet or ever.

The best we can hope for is that most of us will be, and that in and of itself, will provide herd protection to the vulnerable.

The vulnerable still have to be careful... but that has always been true, the only thing that is really new here is this expectation that everyone *else* live like they are both dangerous and vulnerable, when they are neither.

What is your solution?

[CrazyDonkey]

Originally Posted by jlud

It is factual there are millions of undocumented aliens in our country, estimates very in how many millions but there are.

Nice backtrack. Not what you said, by a long shot.

[ChessieMom]

Originally Posted by jlud

Very sorry to hear that about your parents, glad you were at least able to interact with them though. My condolences, and completely respect what your experiences have taught you.

Thank you, I very much appreciate it.

[Botev1912]

Originally Posted by StealthRabbit

~40 - 50% of covid spread is estimated from the asymptomatic (from several WW sources, and why the initial spread was so quick.), but we really don't know the precise number because many areas do not test asymptomatic (including USA)

Yes the US tests everyone who wants a test. You can pretty much get tested daily if you want, but you will never admit this because it doesn't fit your agenda.

[flyingsaucermom]

Originally Posted by Diana Holbrook

This is another lurking threat... we are raising a bunch of kids who are not developing normal immunity to any of the common colds they need to face in school and in life, and adults who are not adding new variants to their own immunity.

The choice is whether we decide we're going to hide behind masks for the rest of our lives and become increasingly weaker, or to adapt to the world as it is.

My next door neighbor's child was about 5-6 months when the pandemic started. I guess will be coming up on 2nd birthday at end of summer or beginning of fall. Mom doesn't leave the house except on the rarest of occasions. Dad takes child out for a walk sometime between 5-7pm most evenings. Extended family is on the other side of the planet. Child is not currently exposed to any English or other children. I'm hoping there is some sort of Facetime exposure in the home with relatives.

Nobody in my family has been sick since March 2020. I believe my son and I had Covid.

[wolfdog]

Originally Posted by xboxmas

This is nuts. This whole post.

Yep

[wolfdog]

Originally Posted by Diana Holbrook

Of course I know not everyone can or will be vaccinated. Yet or ever.

The best we can hope for is that most of us will be, and that in and of itself, will provide herd protection to the vulnerable.

The vulnerable still have to be careful... but that has always been true, the only thing that is really new here is this expectation that everyone *else* live like they are both dangerous and vulnerable, when they are neither.

What is your solution?

Yep

[pnwguy2]

The whole thing is a cluster you know what. WA following CDC guidelines true. Individual businesses still requiring masks true. Major chains going mask free true. Some of the same chains still requiring masks true. On top of all this, many are allowing mask-free for vaccinated but have no desire to have proof and even if they try there are going to be problems. This is total chaos! Screw it, I am going to continue to mask just to avoid the insanity of mask or not mask! EDIT: Ok I have taken a breath and you know what? All this can be eliminated by simply getting vaccinated. Not sure why some still refuse.