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Wow, I meant April 30, not June. I'm way ahead of the times. lol
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Originally Posted by ReineDeCoeur
Why not include the actual deaths though?
The actual deaths doesn't let anyone know what are their chances of dying if they are infected with Covid and require hospitalizations. It also doesn't let anyone know if recuperation vs deaths gap continues to increase at a fast or slow rate in favor of either of the two. If total deaths is growing at a very steady rate but total recuperation is growing at a significantly greater rate, how can anyone know that by simply looking at total deaths?
A simple glance of the data shown would tell anyone that Covid is definitely much more deadly in the USA than in Barbados, for example. That's despite that the USA will always have a higher death number than Barbados simply because it has a population that is hundreds of millions bigger than Barbados. The death number in itself says nothing about the possibility of being hospitalized due to Covid and dying in the USA vs Barbados. What are hospitals in the USA doing to Covid patients that Barbados is or isn't doing to them in their hospitals? Why is a person much more likely to die from Covid in the USA than in Barbados? Why are more people dying from Covid in the USA than in Barbados when both are hospitalized?
Total Covid-19 Deaths - Americas (April 30, 2020 10:22am)
Deaths Per 1 Million Population
Sint Maarten 303
Montserrat 200
United States 186
Bermuda 96
Canada 79
Saint Martin 78
Ecuador 50
Panama 41
Martinique 37
British Virgin Islands 33
Antigua & Barbuda 31
Guadeloupe 30
Peru 29
Bahamas 28
Dominican Republic 27
Turks & Caicos 26
Brazil 26
Barbados 24
Aruba 19
Cayman Islands 15
Mexico 13
Chile 11
Guyana 10
Honduras 7
Curacao 6
Trinidad & Tobago 6
Cuba 5
Belize 5
Colombia 5
Argentina 5
Bolivia 5
Uruguay 4
French Guiana 3
Jamaica 2
Suriname 2
El Salvador 1
Costa Rica 1
Paraguay 1
Guatemala 0.9
Haiti 0.6
Nicaragua 0.5
Venezuela 0.4
No Data
Falkland (Malvinas) Islands
Greenland
Grenada
Saint Kitts & Nevis
Dominica
Caribbean Netherlands
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent & The Grenadines
Saint Barth
Anguilla
Wow, I meant April 30, not June. I'm way ahead of the times. lol
The actual deaths doesn't let anyone know what are their chances of dying if they are infected with Covid and require hospitalizations. It also doesn't let anyone know if recuperation vs deaths gap continues to increase at a fast or slow rate in favor of either of the two. If total deaths is growing at a very steady rate but total recuperation is growing at a significantly greater rate, how can anyone know that by simply looking at total deaths?
A simple glance of the data shown would tell anyone that Covid is definitely much more deadly in the USA than in Barbados, for example. That's despite that the USA will always have a higher death number than Barbados simply because it has a population that is hundreds of millions bigger than Barbados. The death number in itself says nothing about the possibility of being hospitalized due to Covid and dying in the USA vs Barbados. What are hospitals in the USA doing to Covid patients that Barbados is or isn't doing to them in their hospitals? Why is a person much more likely to die from Covid in the USA than in Barbados? Why are more people dying from Covid in the USA than in Barbados when both are hospitalized?
Yes this is true but it would just be good to know how many how many have passed.
Now that you mention Barbados, I wonder if they have finally received the supplies that the U.S. blocked...
A blessing from the sky was recently done over the city of Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. The event was to a blessing against the Covid-19 epidemic in the country. The helicopter is owned by the Dominican Air Force which was offered to the Catholic Church completely free of charge and with Dominican military men flying the air transportation and other military personnel accompanying the priest.
Unlike in the United States, there is no division of church and state in the Dominican Republic. Not only is the Catholic Church the official religion of the country and government, but religious symbols are on prominent displays in government offices, a cross with a crucified Christ is in the middle of the desk of the Supreme Court (where all the judges sit in the main room), many monuments and buildings built by the government throughout Santo Domingo have the Latin cross as their shape or is incorporated into the design of the building (ie. Plaza de la Bandera, Parque Independencia, and the Teatro Nacional Eduardo Brito are perfect example where the Christian cross is on display from the air/satellites images), a Catholic chapel is behind the National Palace for the use of the presidential family, special government events start with a mass at the Oldest Cathedral of the New World for the president, his family, and high ranking members of the government, no major decision is made by the government without getting the opinion of the Archbishop of Santo Domingo, etc.
Despite all of that and more, there is freedom of religion in the Dominican Republic.
With the importance of the Catholic Church and the Christian aspect of most of the population (including religious aspects which are widespread sayings, such as mentioning "si Dios quiere" -"God willing"- after saying something the person will do in the near future or long term), an act like this is truly not surprising. This is a manifestation of most of the population and well received by the people.
A comfortable Haitian immigrant that lives in the area decided to travel in the Punta Cana - Bávaro areas of the Dominican Republic to give an overall look of what a typical day looks like there with the tourist industry on hold. There is a nationwide curfew from 5pm to the early morning hours (I think is 6am), but his video show the streets during non-curfew hours.
Other than a considerable drop in vehicular and pedestrian traffic, it looks like a normal but calm day there. I didn't notice a single mask in use by the people in the streets. Everyone is originally from somewhere else. Despite the area has a population of some 80,000 people, most residents are immigrants from Haiti due to the construction boom (over 80% of construction workers there are Haitians) and many resorts hire them, plus motoconchos (motorcycle taxis, the vast majority are also from Haiti), private security (again, most in this sector are Haitians) and a few other sectors. It is ironic that it is the area of the Dominican Republic with the highest Haitian share of the population considering it's the furthest away a person can be from Haiti (8 hour drive more or less to reach the border) and still be on Hispaniola. A normal person would think the opposite is true. Welcome to the DR, where often times common sense is not that common after all. lol
Most of the owners of the hotel, commercial, residential developments are mostly Dominican and Spaniards, though increasingly from Mexico, Puerto Rico, United States, and Venezuela too. In any case, Dominican law forces any foreign investor to associate themselves with a Dominican investor in order for the investment to be made, so technically even developments owned by foreigners have Dominican owners too who have an economic interest. As expected, most of the owners and biggest beneficiaries don't live in the area, but rather in the Santo Domingo or Cibao Valley areas of the Dominican Republic or other major areas of the world such as NYC metro, Madrid, San Juan de Puerto Rico areas, etc. All fuel oils given to airplanes in the Dominican Republic is owned by the Gilbert Corporation from Port-au-Prince, hence their trucks say "GB" in large initials. He has a sort of monopoly on this islandwide, because his company does the same at airports in Haiti too. The Gilbert family is Jewish and the richest family in Haiti, and lives in the mountainous suburbs of Petionville and Kenscoff in Port-au-Prince, Haiti.
Nice video.
Actually, this video is of a normal day in February before the Coronavirus crisis and its effect in the country.
This one however is recently during the Coronavirus crisis and its effect, including the closure of the borders and repatriation of most of the tourists.
In this one he went grocery shopping at one of the main supermarkets in the area. Here masks wearing is much more prominent. Social distancing not so much, in my opinion.
The Dominican Republic has 60% of the confirmed Covid19 cases in the Caribbean (excluding Haiti because no one knows what is happening over there).. It doesnt have 60% of the population. When one excludes the Caribbean territories with close ties to Europe (from where the disease spread from the Americas) the DR ranks very high on a per capita basis.
So why the rampant spread in the DR when most of the island has minimal exposure to the tourists? In the DR the disease is now more embedded within the general population than it is in all of the other sovereign nations. Definitely in an epidemic stage, even if not quite pandemic In most of the smaller islands its capped at those who brought it in, and a few others who they had contact with. Relatively few cases where the source of infection is unknown.
As of today 8,807 cases in the DR and 2,031 in PR, vs, 473 in Jamaica. These are the Caribbean islands which are still on a growth trajectory. In most other islands there has been little growth in the past 2 weeks. Are there some cultural patterns at play here? I pick these islands as they all have large populations. One of the limitations of the per capita methodology is that it makes small populations look "good" for testing" and "bad" for infections.
In St. Kitts the vast majority of the population obeyed the "shelter in place" and "social distancing" regulations (they arrest those who dont comply, even for not wearing masks in supermarkets). They had greater difficulties in a part of the capital where there is a large Dominicano population, meaning that they had to mount a special campaign in Spanish to ensure that they understood.
Bars, restaurants, and clubs were ordered closed again in South Korea after a new bout of coronavirus infection. This poses an issue in the Caribbean, because how can any destination have tourism return if the local population doesn't have immunity? As of right now, the only way to achieve immunity is by getting infected and surviving. Plus, the main goal of the quarintine is to prevent the collapse of the health network, especially hospitals, and not protecting the population from being infected with the virus. Some estimates is that the majority of the population is going to get infected regardless what is done to slow down the spread of the virus. It seems that the sooner the people are infected and survive, the better it is especially for activities related to tourism.
Regarding the Dominican Republic, the Minister of the Presidency recently addressed the public congratulating the people for doing their part in controlling the coronavirus in the country. He pointed towards the fact that not long ago it used to take 4-5 days for infections to double in the DR and now it takes 19 days to achieve the same result, evidence of the measures taken by the population toslow down new infections. He also touched on other aspects of the virus in the Dominican Republic.
Now the scare is that sick victims is probably greater, because those that got infected via the sick one onboard had contact with their family members and possibly others between the time they were infected and the time they did the test.
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