Recreational marijuana in AZ seems to be going well (Mesa: sale, 2014)

[wase4711]

plus, when was the last time you heard of someone shooting someone after they smoked a joint, or, getting into a major fistfight while high, or, frankly, doing ANYTHING violent after smoking one????

Never happens, but, when drunk, those things and many worse things usually do..

why Biden and his posse havent made this legal nationwide is a great mystery to many...

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by wase4711

why Biden and his posse havent made this legal nationwide is a great mystery to many...

'Cause the .gov is the biggest drug dealer on the planet . . . Besides, I think he forgot.
I'll add that it helps me keep my frustration and blood pressure down, very important after what I've been through early this year.

[wase4711]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

'Cause the .gov is the biggest drug dealer on the planet . . . Besides, I think he forgot.
I'll add that it helps me keep my frustration and blood pressure down, very important after what I've been through early this year.

maybe if he'd smoke a doobie, he would remember..

[jnojr]

Originally Posted by asufan

I think drinking is actually far worse. Just Friday I took about 10 hits off of a 27% THC pre-roll and all it did was relax me and plant me in the couch and made my head tingle. Everyone responds differently but you never see people stumbling walking from weed. It just relaxes, relieves pain and anxiety in most people.

As someone who chooses to drink and to not smoke pot, I agree with you. If we were to accept that banning one was a good idea, it ought to be alcohol. I'd prefer they all stay legal for consenting adults. Pills, heroin, cocaine... if someone wants to poison themselves, that ought to be up to them. Saying that the government should save them opens the door to government "saving" us from fatty food, red meat, or anything other than Brussels sprouts.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by wase4711

plus, when was the last time you heard of someone shooting someone after they smoked a joint, or, getting into a major fistfight while high, or, frankly, doing ANYTHING violent after smoking one????

Never happens, but, when drunk, those things and many worse things usually do..

why Biden and his posse havent made this legal nationwide is a great mystery to many...

I'm not much for smoking anything (it's a lung thing). I've become a big fan of edibles. I used it as a substitute for drinking. But there IS a significant risk to using it with developing brains. Therefore, teens that are into weed often have long-term problems. There is quality research on this topic. At our age, we are good to go!

[DAXhound]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I'm not much for smoking anything (it's a lung thing). I've become a big fan of edibles. I used it as a substitute for drinking. But there IS a significant risk to using it with developing brains. Therefore, teens that are into weed often have long-term problems. There is quality research on this topic. At our age, we are good to go!

I agree, MN, but in areas with strict control the little angels will smoke Spice, which is just off the charts on harmfulness. I also see them doing the flavored vaping thing, which has been rubber stamped by the law enforcement like cigarettes. Very harmful, very nasty. Growing up outside of DC decades ago, weed was relatively quite expensive, and the alternative seemed to be PCP... St. Elizabeth's really had their hands full.

And how many studies show the harmful effects to young people who are forced to take Ritalin, because they were playing tag at recess or were disruptive while making prayer mats in Art class? Toxic as a car battery. And their diets? Sugar, caffeine, and potato chips..

[asufan]

Originally Posted by MN-Born-n-Raised

I'm not much for smoking anything (it's a lung thing). I've become a big fan of edibles. I used it as a substitute for drinking. But there IS a significant risk to using it with developing brains. Therefore, teens that are into weed often have long-term problems. There is quality research on this topic. At our age, we are good to go!

I'm not a smoker either, except occasionally weed maybe 3-4 times a month now that it's legal. My parents smoked cigarettes when I was a kid and it bothered me so I never got into it and they quit in their 40's.

I do also partake in edibles, but those take 2 hours to work and a joint takes 15 seconds, so I like to have both options. I use rarely enough that I doubt I'm causing any lung problems. I tried vaping but didn't like it at all but I'm open to trying a different type of vape.

[MN-Born-n-Raised]

Originally Posted by asufan

I'm not a smoker either, except occasionally weed maybe 3-4 times a month now that it's legal. My parents smoked cigarettes when I was a kid and it bothered me so I never got into it and they quit in their 40's.

I do also partake in edibles, but those take 2 hours to work and a joint takes 15 seconds, so I like to have both options. I use rarely enough that I doubt I'm causing any lung problems. I tried vaping but didn't like it at all but I'm open to trying a different type of vape.

Agreed on the weed and its speed (so I am told). I will say, I found a brew that starts inside of 15 minutes. They are "fast-acting". Normally, it is a sold 45 minutes for it to shift in 1st gear. I'm in 2nd in 15 minutes. I'm double-damned delighted with the feeling. In fact, I shared with a friend who is a "pro" and said it was the best one ever. I might have gotten lucky.

[Sonic_Spork]

As a former pot smoker (many years ago) and as a current resident of CO who is soon moving to AZ...

For anyone who does not know:

1. Regarding worries about stoned drivers. They are less likely to WANT to get behind the wheel than those who drink (drinkers get that "I can do what I want!" belligerence going on) but when they do, they don't so much speed or drive aggressively, what they do is drive stoopid. Like too slow, or lingering at stop signs or lights. When I come up on someone who is driving way slower than they ought around here, I think to myself, "Are you old, or stoned?" Which brings me to a point, they are actually probably more like your elderly who are at a point they shouldn't still have their license, than they are a drunk person. Not good, no, but like in many ways, alcohol has it beat for the sheer amount of likely harm done.

2. With any luck the number of states legalizing will prevent one of the worse effects that Colorado had to deal with being one of the early adopters. We had a lot of people wander into the state thinking that they were gonna work in the pot industry somehow just because they loved to smoke it. Like, no actual agriculture experience, never been able to hold any other kind of a job, just very excited about weed and believing that someone might pay them to be a hippie. Nnnnope. They ended up on corners holding carboard signs, a lot of 'em. It took a while but I think that effect has finally simmered down.

3. Annoying hipsters. Do you guys have the craft beer people? Or did you experience that trend where dudes were smoking fancy tobacco out of hookahs or pipes? Say hello to the pot hipsters. They literally do not ever talk about anything else. And they aren't great at understanding that people who don't partake, don't care about what nifty new strain they tried, or how they are getting into "wax" or whatever and how many times exactly does one need to have the difference between indica and sativa explained? I get it. It's your thing. I supported legalization for political and philosophical reasons. But I just...don't...care...

4. Be careful driving your car with AZ plates into any neighboring states that still strictly prohibit weed. For the longest, troopers in some of our states to the east were convinced that anyone driving from Colorado was likely some kind of big bust waiting to happen.

But congrats though, to those who are happy and benefiting from the new rec. weed. And especially to those who are getting relief from pain or health issues from cannabis products.

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by jnojr

<snip> Saying that the government should save them opens the door to government "saving" us from fatty food, red meat, or anything other than Brussels sprouts.

We (Americans) swung that door wide butt open years before we were born.

Originally Posted by DAXhound

<snip>And how many studies show the harmful effects to young people who are forced to take Ritalin, because they were playing tag at recess or were disruptive while making prayer mats in Art class? Toxic as a car battery. And their diets? Sugar, caffeine, and potato chips..

Another prime example of giving the .gov too much power.


What we are seeing now is the years of slowly but very surely, somehow deciding that it is the .gov job to tell us what is right and wrong.