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Old 04-19-2014, 12:39 PM
 
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The relatives are asking Malaysia why the ELT (a beacon that goes off when a plane crashes) was never activated. I do not believe the ELT can be disabled. Perhaps one of the 777 experts here knows.

At any rate, sounds like more fuel for the aluminum-foil-hat folks on this thread.
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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Those of you who think the plane landed somewhere, are you saying Inmarsat, which is a private company in the UK, is in on this conspiracy? They would have to be since they are the ones who put the final location of the plane, 8 hours into the flight, off the coast of Australia. The final signal they analyzed was sent when the engine shut down.
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Old 04-19-2014, 12:54 PM
 
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I don't dismiss ANYTHING as a possibility.
Except perhaps common sense?

Land on a highway... better not have any trees or power lines on either side

And of course to get to the top secret hanger that by the way would have to would at a minimum 210' x 300' and five to six stories tall, one would think one would need a road - once off the highway/landing strip - could handle a 500,000 lbs aircraft.

Something like this:




Now pardon me folks but I've been peeking into this thread for a while and it has been interesting, but for me personally when I heard the first reports "Breaking News Airliner Missing!!!!" I asked myself, how does a plane go missing... well if it is missing it MUST HAVE CRASHED SOMEWHERE

Now if there is was some nefarious plot, I can buy into the pilot committing suicide by airliner, not unprecedented. I can see a hijacking gone bad, again, we've seen that before. But taking the plan, no claim of responsibility, no demands, no bragging and thank god no terrorist snuff films, the plane is sitting somewhere on the bottom of somebodies ocean and until they find it all this conspiracy stuff is just a internet parlor game... not to be taken seriously.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:06 PM
 
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Except perhaps common sense?

Land on a highway... better not have any trees or power lines on either side
have you seen the terrain around parts of Central Asia and Pakistan? No trees anywhere. Power lines? They have electricity in the villages? Now there's a news item!
And have you noticed that even in the US, power lines often don't follow alongside highways. Just saying.
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Now pardon me folks but I've been peeking into this thread for a while and it has been interesting, but for me personally when I heard the first reports "Breaking News Airliner Missing!!!!" I asked myself, how does a plane go missing... well if it is missing it MUST HAVE CRASHED SOMEWHERE

Now if there is was some nefarious plot, I can buy into the pilot committing suicide by airliner, not unprecedented. I can see a hijacking gone bad, again, we've seen that before. But taking the plan, no claim of responsibility, no demands, no bragging and thank god no terrorist snuff films, the plane is sitting somewhere on the bottom of somebodies ocean and until they find it all this conspiracy stuff is just a internet parlor game... not to be taken seriously.
You must admit, though, that this case's history of false statements and retractions hasn't helped the credibility of any bona fide info that may have come out. How are we supposed to know what's real?

True, though; the best place to hide a plane is at the bottom of an ocean.

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Old 04-19-2014, 01:46 PM
 
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Except perhaps common sense?
........the plane is sitting somewhere on the bottom of somebodies ocean and until they find it all this conspiracy stuff is just a internet parlor game... not to be taken seriously.

Oh I think I have plenty of common sense...extra even for those who mistake their own smugness for common sense. You choose to believe what you are told because it makes the most "sense" to believe it....as in that's the most comfortable scenario to accept.

I simply say since we do not have much beyond countless retracted statements; that it would be arrogant to dismiss other possibilities. Arrogance is another trait I see a lot of in people who think they hit the motherload on common sense.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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Those of you who think the plane landed somewhere, are you saying Inmarsat, which is a private company in the UK, is in on this conspiracy? They would have to be since they are the ones who put the final location of the plane, 8 hours into the flight, off the coast of Australia. The final signal they analyzed was sent when the engine shut down.
Good question and no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying we don't know. Again, we are being given a choice to accept as fact what we have heard in media reports & press statements. Perhaps Inmarsat is not at liberty to be completely forthcoming. Perhaps a lot of agencies involved in the investigation are limited in what they divulge. As it should be. Perhaps 370 is in the ocean...but until they put out solid proof, I remain skeptical.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:46 PM
 
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The relatives are asking Malaysia why the ELT (a beacon that goes off when a plane crashes) was never activated. I do not believe the ELT can be disabled. Perhaps one of the 777 experts here knows.

At any rate, sounds like more fuel for the aluminum-foil-hat folks on this thread.
That plane had 4 ELTs.

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Those of you who think the plane landed somewhere, are you saying Inmarsat, which is a private company in the UK, is in on this conspiracy? They would have to be since they are the ones who put the final location of the plane, 8 hours into the flight, off the coast of Australia. The final signal they analyzed was sent when the engine shut down.
So, the final ping happened when an engine shut down or when both engines shut down? Would there be 2 separate signals for each engine shutting down?

There have been hundreds and hundreds of posts in this thread of people voicing their opinions about what might have happened to the plane. No matter how ludicrous some of the theories might seem, there is no need for anyone to imply that the people posting them belong in a padded cell.

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Old 04-19-2014, 03:15 PM
 
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That plane had 4 ELTs.



So, the final ping happened when an engine shut down or when both engines shut down? Would there be 2 separate signals for each engine shutting down?
The account that I read (from the BBC) was that it was sent from a single engine being shut down. The thought was it ran out of fuel while the other one continued to suck a little bit more out of its tank. The article had some "expert" (maybe a pilot, cannot remember) who thought the plane could not remain stable on one engine while on autopilot and would crash at that point. That latter point was debated a bit here, so who knows.

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There have been hundreds and hundreds of posts in this thread of people voicing their opinions about what might have happened to the plane. No matter how ludicrous some of the theories might seem, there is no need for anyone to imply that the people posting them belong in a padded cell.
It was a joke. The little smiley face is supposed to indicate that. Or so I thought.
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Old 04-19-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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I wasn't necessarily talking about you, although, admittedly, I may have misinterpreted your smiley face. Sorry. All of a sudden, there are all these posts about freakin tin-foil hats. It's driving me crazy. I don't understand why it's happening after all these weeks of civility on here.
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Old 04-19-2014, 03:32 PM
 
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have you seen the terrain around parts of Central Asia and Pakistan? No trees anywhere. Power lines? They have electricity in the villages? Now there's a news item!


Now I gave you a number of factors that makes the argument implausible, including the existence of some clandestine six story 63,000 foot hanger, so I can see why that was the biggest "flaw" that you can point out.


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