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Old 03-11-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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It's obviously aliens.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:18 PM
 
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It's obviously aliens.
Well, were there any UFO sightings in the area at that time? One one of the links on here*, there was a video of radar of the plane and another smaller plane that seemed to be right on its tail. They both disappeared off the radar at the same time.

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:24 PM
 
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I haven't seen any confirmation by any official authorities that cellphones known to be on the plane were/are still operational?
This doesn't answer the question. If cellphones can be tracked, why wasn't that done as soon as relatives of passengers said passenger cell phones were ringing?
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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That crash scared the crap out of me. With that being said, ever drive or ride in a car? Statistically, you are far safer on a plane. The last fatal crash involving a US airline was in January of 2009. The last involving a non-regional airline was in November of 2001.

I am a frequent flyer. I have elite status on American. I'm also a somewhat nervous flyer and, no matter how much I fly, it doesn't improve that much. But, when thinking about it rationally, you are very safe flying...at least on US airlines and really first-world airlines in general.
Yes, I've heard it all before about the "being safer than in a car" thing, several times over, but even though some total dbag, who was stoned, crashed in to me in 1999, I still feel safer in cars. I realize that I am "trusting" everyone else on the road to do as they are supposed to do, which, far too many times, they do NOT, but I have driven for several years for a living. I'm not talking a mere 50 miles a day, I'm talking hundreds a day, and I have learned to watch the drivers, not just what is in front of me. By watching the drivers, you can pick up even subtle signals from their head movements, eye movements, and even how they are sitting, to get an idea of what they are going to do next.

The dbag who hit me was coming at me head on, but the fact that I had tons of experience with driving is what saved my own backside. At the time, during it all, I didn't feel like I was illustrating fantastic driving skills, but when you have witnesses, and the police, telling you that you have exceptional driving skills to prevent the accident from being worse, you should probably take their word on it. He came at me head on. Because I was able to control MY car, I avoided being either paralyzed, or dead. That's not an embellishment.

Further, I maintained my vehicle that I used, and while yes, it's possible to get in a crash in a car, my chances of surviving a car crash, (as I have), are far better than being in a plane that falls out of the sky. I do not feel safe flying. I have to put my trust in to far, far too many people, from the people who handle the parts at enormous company warehouses, to the mechanics, to the people in charge who decide if they are going to listen to someone who says, "Hey, guys, this part isn't working well, it needs to be checked".

When I had to fly somewhere due to a job responsibility one time, I got lucky that an older man was sitting next to me. He knew, (I mean, it was obvious), that I was scared spitless. He did manage to try to keep my attention during the flight by talking to me, but landing? I was, literally, scratching at the seat back in front of me. If that landing had lasted even 20 more seconds, I would have been in full blown panic mode. I'll take my chances in a car.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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This doesn't answer the question. If cellphones can be tracked, why wasn't that done as soon as relatives of passengers said passenger cell phones were ringing?
It absolutely does answer the question. If authorities looked into these reports and could not verify that alleged cell phones were operational then there was nothing to track.

"Malaysia Airlines spokesman Ignatius Ong dismissed the claims, saying he tried calling one of the phones five times and “got no answering tone,†according to News.com.au. He added that the airline’s command center had no luck either."

Malaysia's military investigating reports that missing plane changed course, made it to country's west coast | Fox News
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:32 PM
 
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So why hasn't that been done? It's been days, now, since it was discovered that some of the cellphones are operable.

What "small island" was the plane sighted as flying over by the Malaysian Airforce? Islands in the general area of where the plane was last seen on radar: the Philippines, misc. small islands between Malaysia and north Borneo (Malaysia) belonging to Indonesia.

Any other ideas?
A typical cellphone has enough power to reach a cell tower up to 45 miles away. Cellphones do not work out over the ocean.

According to one report:

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But now the Malaysian Air Force say its radars tracked the plane as it turned West and headed back across Malaysia and into the Strait of Malacca, where it was last seen at 30,000ft at 2.40am above the small island of Pulau Perak.
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Well while flying internationally, I have always been able to identify cities and countries over which our plane is flying without the help of maps. Reversing and again crossing Malaysia will raise questions immediately.
This flight took off at at 12:41 a.m. local time. After flying over Malaysia, it was flying over the Gulf of Thailand. Would you be able to identify where you were?

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I haven't seen any confirmation by any official authorities that cellphones known to be on the plane were/are still operational?
I have seen numerous reports that say cellphones on the plane are not operational. When calling cellphones on the plane, it reportedly rings a few times and disconnects.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:36 PM
 
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If you are calling a cell phone that isn't operational it will ring on your end (person placing the call) before it actually rings/connects on the other end. I'm not sure if this is on all carriers or not. I had a phone destroyed in a pool once and someone was trying to call me and said it rang a few times.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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Okay, more on the news:

As stated earlier, the officials are now saying that the transponder was turned off. The plane flew for another hour or so after it was turned off. (According to reports.)

It did not stay on course, the plane turned, as others have been saying. It was "hundreds of miles off course" according to an unnamed official. It was last tracked by some military base on a tiny island, (sorry, didn't get the name).

There allegedly was a witness to this plane. A fisherman said that the plane was low. In fact, according to the news, the fisherman said it was so low, the lights looked like "giant coconuts". That's pretty stinkin' low.

I'm still wondering about that report that is no longer viewable that was linked several days ago about an emergency call, and "disintegration" in the cabin, and "forced landing". No one else is talking about it, and that information has been pulled down, but it still makes me wonder. Edited to add: The military did say it was picked up on radar, (whatever it's called), but no one paid attention or did not believe them, now, when the military says it again, people are listening. I can't seem to step away from that linked information that was provided a few days ago.

Update: Apparently the officials knew all of this the whole time, and did not tell anyone, (reporters), nor did they start a search in the area they say that they knew the plane was flying in. Now you've got the media asking, "Why didn't the military, (the ones on that tiny island) tell anyone, and why wait several days to reveal that a search will be started way over here (complete opposite direction of where they are now searching), instead of wasting time searching in the wrong area?"

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Old 03-11-2014, 01:39 PM
 
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The phone ringing is nothing surprising

What's surprising is 3 of the phones still being online on instant messenger service QQ

Once 3g/4g data is off, these sorts of apps go offline within minutes

I believe this plane was hijacked and is landed somewhere.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:43 PM
 
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The Last Day of Malaysia Airline Passengers With Stolen Passports - Yahoo
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