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Logging... Sorry oldtrader, I disagree.. Trees ain't corn! Yes mono cropping vast swaths of corn and beans is hurting the enviorment... Go talk to Fishermen down in the gulf of Mexico... Midwest rivers are dead, the dead zone in the gulf is growing every year...
I consider your posts on this subject one sided and sensationalized... MODERN logging operations are not only selective cutting. Some sections are clear cut some selective so on and so forth... The logging practices of the past were not very good. Most importantly they were not sustainable... We went boom then bust, like lemming... The industry was crushed because we cherry picked the easy to access virgin timber, which was profitable, second growth, third growth trees are not prime, poor quality lumber only good for dimensional, chip board or paper. Look to the multi national cooperations that came through and raped your land then left and moved on to the next tract, for the source of your pains..
Quit blaming "environmentalists". Nothing more than a convenient excuse for an industry that crashed for many reasons, mainly foreign compitition.... Get going! Rebuild the infrastructure, celebrate new small mills or processing plants... On prime soils be patient grow mature premium timber, on poor marginal soils, log and make use of the biomass... It is real tough to make a buck these days, one has to be innovative, and loose the chip on their shoulder, the past is history it is not coming back.
Young second and third growth redwood or cedar is not good for much. It looses its rot resistant quality.. It is best to manage those forests for mature timber... It ain't going anywhere, it is OK to build inventory for the generations in future too...
I am an active participant in the world of logging, I log, sell logs, mill logs, manage our forest land so on and so forth... I ain't buying your excuses When's the last time you picked up a chainsaw?.. Me it was yesterday.......
Want to help, then stop voting for politicians that are in the pockets of the lobbies for the multi national cooperations, and by local from small producers....... We are out there, just dang hard to compete with the big chain lumber yards, buying from the big multi national corps..
Sounds good, consider solar as a heat source, it is cheap and easy to build solar water heaters.... Also, IMO keep the scale down, build on sucess..
I have contemplated raising fish in the greenhouse, auquaponics is pretty cool when you can get the balance just right... IMO one can compete with foreign fish, with marketing, a organic farm raised fish.. Hmmm I wonder if OMRI certifies fish farms...
Why not? You can breath easier here, lol! Traffic jam only occurs on Cypress, otherwise you can get to your destination (anywhere around here) within ten to fifteen minutes.
Iím not really sure how anyone can breath easy in that town unless theyíre a bay area retiree. Thereís no jobs and never will be any jobs in Shasta County unless you want to sign up to be a plebe serving said retirees at the Hometown Buffet. Itís like a professor told me at Shasta College. The Redding area will always be an $8.00 an hour town with a view.
ROFL.. happened to see this thread jumbled in and thought I'd add my experience to the mix!
NEVER move to redding unless you like extremely hot and fire prone summers and WILL be taking frequent advantage of the lake and other great outdoor recreation... And you're either a) retired with no desire to continue working b) business owner with a successful business *somewhere else* that provides you income!
My best advice to ANYONE (including those meeting the guidelines above) even considering a move to Redding: Don't even waste the money to come visit, save it for an escape fund! Spend 2 weeks reading the redding.com news every day, especially the comments on the articles. I do this still from time to time simply because it's a great laugh almost any time I check it. If you still think it's a good move after those 2 weeks, more power to you!
Here's the long version of my story for anyone interested, I hope it helps:
My wife and I are in our 20s and used to live there. We saved up, quit our jobs (we actually had jobs! I even had a GOOD job), and started traveling about a year and a half ago. We've been all over this country, and I can absolutely certify that Redding is by far one of the worst economies we've seen! Time and time again we've rolled into some random town where we don't know anyone or anything and, deciding to replenish our travel funds a bit, we've gotten jobs within a 3-7 days that are better than ones our friends have been hunting for in Redding for over a year, or at *very* least 6 months! It operates like an isolated town of 1500, not an isolated town of 100,000. The unemployment there isn't even saying the least of it - it's the underemployment. Unless you work for some government entity your options are a couple small businesses riddled with nepotism, the casino (read: medium size business riddled with nepotism, but otherwise good), or some chain place. Oh, you might be a lawyer, real estate agent, or construction worker too - but the two later categories have dried up tremendously while the former is probably doing quite well with the huge inflation of crime. The jail has a well established and *very* well known revolving door policy, and as desperation sinks into the ranks of otherwise normally decent people (on top of the very large population of scum) the crime problem is starting to get fairly bad. The only plus is that the only real gang activity is in the forests, which you could otherwise enjoy if not for the knowledge that you could stumble on a grow at any moment and get shot.
Anyway, the real problem as has been noted is the employment situation. Working at a chain that could care less about you, where you're elated to get 15-20 hours a week at minimum wage, is considered a good job because it IS a job. On the rare chance that one of these pops up I see friends post about it on facebook - friends who have gone through college already mind you. I know people working 4 or 5 hours on some weeks, again - at minimum wage. The local government there is a whole story that I wouldn't even know how to begin - but suffice it to say that there's a longstanding tradition of why things don't have any chance at improving. Finally - the mentality there! I try like crazy to convince friends and family to leave, but people get trapped. It's as much a psychological thing as a financial thing. Your best bet - just don't go there, even if you have a job offer. That job isn't secure, and if you lose it, you're screwed if you don't leave town immediately. For full disclosure, I will say that we do have a small handful of people we know who do actually like it there. They like the recreation available and the non-urban feeling. But they've also never lived anywhere else for any length of time. Anywho, just thought I'd keep conversation lively :)
I am here to bash Redding Ca. - I first moved there to leave the Bay area so I could live in the country and fish.
I have many places and there is no where so many people cannot wait to get out! There is something there that is just is just dead! The people are stuck in1959, very religious with the holy roller churches in the school system, when you go to the lake or river it is at least 100 degrees + from June through Sept _ no fun.
It is just a very backward place with White Trash!
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