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Old 02-27-2009, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I'll leave California (BayArea) when New York City grows mountains and evergreens around it, it is the only other place I would live here in America.
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Eufaula, Oklahoma
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1. My family all moving to Oregon.

2. Oregon's economy doing better than CA.

3. A job near Portland earning equivalent pay.

Chances of all three of these happening are ~ .0001% mostly because of #1. Our family are all natives and some can hardly even imagine moving to the next town let alone another state. When we moved to CO we were amazed at the lack interest most had of even entertaining the idea. Most ppl just don't like change. It is terrifying.

While I like to explore new places my wife wants to be close to family. And with young children it is an important consideration. Plus Monterey is a great place to live in CA. If only housing would become more affordable it would be close to ideal!

Derek
You might want to check this out. Oregon's jobless rate is 9.9%. California is 10.1% here is a link out today.

Oregon unemployment rate highest in 25 years - OregonLive.com
Good luck.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:17 PM
 
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After I do return to California, nothing, nothing, I repeat NOTHING will make me leave again, not even $100 million bucks!
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:21 PM
 
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The death of my grandmother. I would not stay after that. It would remind me to much of her. Harsh to think about. But I love her to death. So, i guess the death of her will be my last days in California.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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After I do return to California, nothing, nothing, I repeat NOTHING will make me leave again, not even $100 million bucks!
I think we are long lost twins!
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego, Ca
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I think we are long lost twins!
Triplets.....I feel the same way.
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:42 AM
 
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Triplets.....I feel the same way.
I'm just curious, what is so bad outside of California? Meaning that you would rather be unemployed here than be in the same circumstance where ever you are at now? Do people throw rocks at you if you lose a job? Does the state not pay enough unemployment? Do you not have friends and family support?
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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I'm just curious, what is so bad outside of California?
Weather is ideal in some parts of California.

Hyper-religious culture is prevalent in a lot of places that Californians are moving to (Texas, Colorado Springs, Alabama). Everyone, and I mean everyone, in our neighborhood is at church this morning. In California, it wasn't that way.

But still, those are not huge issues. Right now, the positives of being out of CA (jobs, stable real estate, no traffic) outweigh the negatives (above). Right now.
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: San Diego, Ca
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I'm just curious, what is so bad outside of California? Meaning that you would rather be unemployed here than be in the same circumstance where ever you are at now? Do people throw rocks at you if you lose a job? Does the state not pay enough unemployment? Do you not have friends and family support?
There are so many reasons that I could give you as to why my husband and I dislike where we are now. But I won't waste your time or bash the place we are now. Some that have moved here enjoy it and others like us are miserable. Employement is not a factor with us and something that we don't have to worry about. Does California have problems; yes just as most other areas have. Is California right for everyone, no. It depends on the individual and their circumstances.

There were many things and reasons why we left California. But as the saying goes "The grass isn't always greener on the other side".

In California there are so many things that my husband and I enjoy doing. The people are so much more outgoing and friendly. I've heard so long about how Californians are rude, snoby etc. Especially before I moved there in the 90's. I didn't see that. That was individuals that had never been there. I was raised in the south and am now in Tennessee. The people here fit that profile. It doesn't matter how much you reach out to them, they don't want to get to know one another. And as far as being affordable; that's not always the case outside of California. I would suggest to anyone wanting to move out of California for more affordability to check on everything before hand. Make sure you know all the tax issues, check on how much your car ins and health ins would be. Check on utilities and such and see what it would cost. See how much groceries would cost and also if you would take a huge pay cut where your going. All that factors in to see if it's more affordable. I sure wish I would have done that. That was my fault.

I know it's hard to understand why people would want to come back to California, especially now with the way things are. But for us; it is.
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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There are so many reasons that I could give you as to why my husband and I dislike where we are now. But I won't waste your time or bash the place we are now. Some that have moved here enjoy it and others like us are miserable. Employement is not a factor with us and something that we don't have to worry about. Does California have problems; yes just as most other areas have. Is California right for everyone, no. It depends on the individual and their circumstances.

There were many things and reasons why we left California. But as the saying goes "The grass isn't always greener on the other side".

In California there are so many things that my husband and I enjoy doing. The people are so much more outgoing and friendly. I've heard so long about how Californians are rude, snoby etc. Especially before I moved there in the 90's. I didn't see that. That was individuals that had never been there. I was raised in the south and am now in Tennessee. The people here fit that profile.It doesn't matter how much you reach out to them, they don't want to get to know one another. And as far as being affordable; that's not always the case outside of California. I would suggest to anyone wanting to move out of California for more affordability to check on everything before hand. Make sure you know all the tax issues, check on how much your car ins and health ins would be. Check on utilities and such and see what it would cost. See how much groceries would cost and also if you would take a huge pay cut where your going. All that factors in to see if it's more affordable. I sure wish I would have done that. That was my fault.

I know it's hard to understand why people would want to come back to California, especially now with the way things are. But for us; it is.
The bold part is the info that you can't get from a real estate brochure or the chamber of commerce.

In California there is a definite openness to strangers. Probably because people move around so much and all the immigrants. I ask these questions because I'll be retiring out of state. My chosen place looks good on paper but getting to know the locals before you get there is the hardest part. I've met a few and they are cool and like my out look on life. But the ones I've met have said that there are others who are xenophobic to the max. Like you said, they have never been out of the county, let alone the state.

thx for the info.
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