Ok, California is bad! Which states are good? (Los Angeles, Lakewood: living, move to)

[Charles]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

...putting a slutty flight-attendant type within striking distance of the presidency...

This is a total crack up. "Flight attendant type".


But seriously, do you think the slight voting tendencies of one state over another really makes much difference? It's like "So what?", your life is affected by so many other things like job availability, housing prices, amenities, community size (which sort of drives amenities), taxes, and climate. I don't think any one state is extreme red or extreme blue. And you'll find blue people in red states and vice versa.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

I could never move to a state that voted republican in either of the last two elections. I'll give the Bush
folks a pass on the first term, no one could have foreseen the impending disaster, but getting bit a second time really says a lot about the brain-power of these places. Then putting a slutty flight-attendant type within striking distance of the presidency during the last election? I can't be with those people.

You must be quite young. You fail to realize, until fairly recently, California generally voted Republican. That was, until it was taken over by carpetbagger communists from back east and abroad.

TAKE BACK CALIFORNIA!

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by whydoucare?

Everybody I know that moved out of Ca ended up coming back. I know I will not leave Ca because the weather here is too good. I dont want to deal with hot weather nor cold weather. Ca is just right plus my job pays alot more here than it would in most other states.

well how about that and all but 2 families I know that left did not come back. One couple moved to Vegas, couldn't wait to get back to Ca and the other moved to NO VA and went back. All the rest have stayed out of the state unless transferred. This includes almost my whole family and many of their friends.

Calif is perfect for many people, but not for others. My guess, about 50% at most of those who leave come back. What state is the best depends on a couple of things: where in Ca one is moving from, what they want from their new experience and their income level as well as availability of jobs.

Lots of Ca re-locate to TX, of course seniors to AZ and believe it or not some here to NWA as well as TN and MO just to mention a few places. Yes, Colorado is getting their share as well as Idaho and of course OR. OK is another place as is NM. On our street in NM we had 9 houses on the cul da sak, 5 of the owners were from California. Two of those 5 had been transferred, we had come from Texas but originally from CA, our next door neighbors were from Paradise and the people on the corner were from Orange County but I don't remember the city. They are now trying to sell their home to move back, but mainly because she is in a wheel chair and he has heart trouble, so they need to be nearer the family.

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by quickdraw

I could never move to a state that voted republican in either of the last two elections. I'll give the Bush
folks a pass on the first term, no one could have foreseen the impending disaster, but getting bit a second time really says a lot about the brain-power of these places. Then putting a slutty flight-attendant type within striking distance of the presidency during the last election? I can't be with those people.

and you know what? those states wouldn't someone as narrow minded as you!!!

Nita

[Deezus]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

You must be quite young. You fail to realize, until fairly recently, California generally voted Republican. That was, until it was taken over by carpetbagger communists from back east and abroad.

TAKE BACK CALIFORNIA!

So it was the carpetbagger communists who voted in Pat Brown in 1959?

[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

My pipe dream is that once we leave California I'll never hear Spanish again except in an appropriate restaurant!

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

It's the Ozarks of Missouri for us!

I hope it works for you.

I'm not knocking your choice, just trying to clarify what I thought I heard.

I thought I read that the Missouri Ozarks (along with NW Arkansas) are seeing an influx of Mexican immigrants? Nowhere near the levels in California but a rapidly growing number.

IIRC, I read that some small town churches were adding Spanish language services, printing things in Spanish, etc.

Is my memory failing me? Or is it just pockets scattered around the region?

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by Deezus

So it was the carpetbagger communists who voted in Pat Brown in 1959?

Obviously Pat Brown got quite a few cross over Republican votes. By today's standards, Pat Brown would be labeled a Far Right conservative. Look at national elections and presidential votes.

[HoldensGma]

I have relatives that moved from California to Arkansas and Oklahoma. They all love it there. I moved there and didnt care for it so we moved back to California to care for my dad when he began ill. My father in law lives in Springfield Missouri and from what I have heard from all three of those states there is an influx of Spanish speakers. I like living in California but we are planning to move to Idaho which is my husbands home state in 2010. I think people should not try to make the new state like the old state and they will be more welcomed. I hope so anyway...

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Deezus

So it was the carpetbagger communists who voted in Pat Brown in 1959?

I think you know what was meant by the comment, as a rule, they voted republican. Oh, BTW, why was Pat running in 1959, I have never heard of a Ca governors election in an odd year..?"??

Nita

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

I hope it works for you.

I'm not knocking your choice, just trying to clarify what I thought I heard.

I thought I read that the Missouri Ozarks (along with NW Arkansas) are seeing an influx of Mexican immigrants? Nowhere near the levels in California but a rapidly growing number.

IIRC, I read that some small town churches were adding Spanish language services, printing things in Spanish, etc.

Is my memory failing me? Or is it just pockets scattered around the region?

yes, there certainly are some, mainly due to the chicken factories, but no, nothing like Ca or even some other states like NM, AZ (well until recently AZ) and some in the northern part of our country. We will continue to see the influx until something is done to secure the borders, but NWA is nothing like many places. I haven't seen anything in spanish. There may be a catholic church in the area that has services in Spanish, but you don't see anything written in more than one language.

Nita