Why Do So Many More Canadians Move To America Than Americans Move To Canada? (tuition, smog)
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Thanks for that totally non-biased post from the Los Angeles Times, the same paper that rejoiced when California started giving driver's licenses to illegals. Also it's a city where the middle class can barely scrape by because it's so outrageously expensive there. Have you any idea how many millions and millions of Americans like their health insurance?
No, my post is my opinion that most Americans share. We don't want government-run crap. If America wanted Socialism, we would have embraced it long ago.
Aaah, there ya go. Doing what you accuse others of; ignoring posted facts. If you didn't like the source of the information, I'll get others from a truck load of them all saying the same thing. https://www.vox.com/2019/1/23/181942...acare-medicaid
Again you're going with the silly "socialism" nonsense when you don't even know the meaning of the word. When used erroneously as you keep using it, the U.S. has more forms of socialism than Canada has, or ever will have.
You won't find Canada providing cel-phones to baby mommas with multiple babies from multiple daddies none of whom are supporting their progeny.
Nor will Canada's stats ever begin to equate to (by yours and Romney's own admission) over 51% of our population receiving some form of government hand out.
I stand willing to be corrected, but those links clearly show over 50% of Americans support some form of government sponsored, legislated single-payer (medicare) healthcare system. In my day that would mean "most".
You've "embraced" up to your necks what you're calling "socialism", with the example of Medicare being the very model for Canada's single-payer system (one Americans would riot over if it were removed), while lemming-like parroting "socialism" if it's enacted by another country.
If you wish to be taken seriously you really need to stop taking rigid positions based upon a false premise. Regardless of you calling them opinions or not, when you state nonsense like "most Americans are against embracing "socialism" ", while inferring that is what Canadians do, you're just tossing out the mantra you've listened to your entire life without once questioning it's origins or veracity and ignoring the FACT your country has "embraced" even more of the same..
Muddying things with the percent of people who pay taxes might be above my pay grade.
In Canada, everyone paid for health care whether they worked or not. It was either deducted at work, or paid out of pocket. That was a problem for the unemployed.
In the 1980s, that was changed so that everyone paid through taxes. Those who earn less pay less or nothing, those who earn more pay more. This change was a relief for low income and unemployed people. Most people have extended health benefits (vision, dental, etc.), which they pay through work or out of pocket.
Why would taxes skyrocket if everyone pays through taxes?
Aaah, there ya go. Doing what you accuse others of; ignoring posted facts. If you didn't like the source of the information, I'll get others from a truck load of them all saying the same thing.
Again going with the silly "socialism" nonsense when you don't even know the meaning of the word. When used erroneously as you keep using it, the U.S. has more forms of socialism than Canada has or will ever have.
You won't find Canada providing cel-phones to baby mommas with multiple babies from multiple daddies none of whom are supporting their progeny.
Nor will Canada's stats ever begin to equate to (by yours and Romney's own admission) over 51% of our population receiving some form of government hand out.
I stand willing to be corrected, but those links clearly show over 50% of Americans support some form of government sponsored, legislated single-payer (medicare) healthcare system. In my day that would mean "most".
You've "embraced" up to your necks what you're calling "socialism", with the example of Medicare being the very model for Canada's single-payer system (one Americans would riot over if it were removed), while lemming-like parroting "socialism" if it's enacted by another country.
If you wish to be taken seriously you really need to stop taking rigid positions based upon false premise. Regardless of you calling them opinions or not, when you state nonsense like "most Americans are against embracing "socialism" ", while inferring that is what Canadians do, you're just tossing out the mantra you've listened to your entire life without once questioning it's origins or veracity and ignoring the FACT your country has more of the same..
Those links are all biased, lol.
I could pull up a million right-leaning articles that are completely opposite.
My country does not have more of the same, see 2016 election.
I understand. Socialism is like that.
Good luck with it then. You might want to rethink that so people start paying taxes again.
In Canada, everyone has health care and that is a great thing for Canadians. Everyone pays taxes unless they can demonstrate that their income is very low. If their income is very low, they may be subsidized through housing coops and welfare. They always have health care, regardless of all other circumstances.
I could pull up a million right-leaning articles that are completely opposite.
My country does not have more of the same, see 2016 election.
Dear gawd in heaven.
No factual rebuttal to anything I posted, just more lazy and deflecting "fake news" denial. Had you bothered to even read them you would have found more than one of them used U.S. government provided stats. Pew Research right leaning …..haaar! https://www.pewresearch.org/about/our-mission/
The one item your young type continuously point to as "socialism", Canada's single payer system, is identical to Medicare in the U.S. You going to rid yourselves of that "socialism" are you? How about the VA, you going to get rid of that "socialism"? The Medicaid, EMTLA, TANIF assistance with among it's many provisions, the EBT card handouts, the aforementioned Lifeline Assistance program. Gonna shed yourselves of all that embraced socialism, eh?
The election of 2016 will not result in even one of those being touched lest there be riots and burning of Trump in effigy.
Just as an aside, "your young type" and "kiddo" isn't a nice thing to read. I've been referred to in that way only on these Canadian threads. It can feel rather offensive. Not everyone is as smart as the Canadians, but at least some are brave enough to try to hold their own - even those in their second childhood. What, no emojis here?
Just as an aside, "your young type" and "kiddo" isn't a nice thing to read. I've been referred to in that way only on these Canadian threads. It can feel rather offensive. Not everyone is as smart as the Canadians, but at least some are brave enough to try to hold their own - even those in their second childhood. What, no emojis here?
Oh my, I must have been mistaken when I took umbrage at the young kiddo with seemingly no compunction whatsoever referring numerous times to Canada embracing "socialism" and by extension Canadians being all "poor and lazy".
"The only people who want socialism are the poor (and lazy). I have lots of friends, it's the poor ones who are Bernie supporters. The rest that worked hard and went to college and have good jobs and insurance hate him just like I do."
Regardless, your point is well taken. The higher road is the one least travelled. I shall endeavour to do better.
I understand. Socialism is like that.
Good luck with it then. You might want to rethink that so people start paying taxes again.
What am I supposed to do about it? I went to college, got a good job, am a good consumer and citizen. I pay my taxes. I would love it if all US citizens could get off the tit and prosper, that would just make America stronger and better than it already is.
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Originally Posted by Lieneke
In Canada, everyone has health care and that is a great thing for Canadians. Everyone pays taxes unless they can demonstrate that their income is very low. If their income is very low, they may be subsidized through housing coops and welfare. They always have health care, regardless of all other circumstances.
Oh my, I must have been mistaken when I took umbrage at the young kiddo with seemingly no compunction whatsoever referring numerous times to Canada embracing "socialism" and by extension Canadians being all "poor and lazy".
"The only people who want socialism are the poor (and lazy). I have lots of friends, it's the poor ones who are Bernie supporters. The rest that worked hard and went to college and have good jobs and insurance hate him just like I do."
Regardless, your point is well taken. The higher road is the one least travelled. I shall endeavour to do better.
I was talking about American citizens, not Canadians.
Oh my, I must have been mistaken when I took umbrage at the young kiddo with seemingly no compunction whatsoever referring numerous times to Canada embracing "socialism" and by extension Canadians being all "poor and lazy".
"The only people who want socialism are the poor (and lazy). I have lots of friends, it's the poor ones who are Bernie supporters. The rest that worked hard and went to college and have good jobs and insurance hate him just like I do."
Regardless, your point is well taken. The higher road is the one least travelled. I shall endeavour to do better.
Doesn't everyone South of the border look for some reason to argue that they are superior, better, more advanced, and so on? I have yet to see a logical argument, but that doesn't necessarily mean youth. We are talking about the country that elected a fake-speak monkey for president. Obviously, the IQ must be quite low in that country. It's best if they stay where they are - even if it means letting them think that Canadians desire their socialism.
Bernie did make a good point about the cost of insulin.
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