Why Do So Many More Canadians Move To America Than Americans Move To Canada? (earnings, corporate)

[CRAROD]

Social Progress Index 2019

Someone is seriously declining year after year. I wonder who that would be?

https://www.socialprogress.org/?tab=3

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by PBeauchamp

While I can see the merit in both sides of this debate, you can't really expect someone to read such a disorganized rant, BruSan.

No one's forcing them to read it and given your noted stance on all things Canadian other than Quebec, I would not have expected you to either. But apparently you did.

[Mister 7]

Originally Posted by BruSan

Just as aside. Were I a devout Liberal instead of a socially progressive fiscal conservative, I would have cringed at the comments being made by Bernie regarding his financing of Medicare for all, He will probably set the case for universal or single payer healthcare in the U.S. back by at least ten years.

I had a humongous response to this whole post that of course got deleted that if I feel like I'll do it again, but to sum up...

You say you're a fiscally conservative and socially progressive. That may be true in Canada and more power to you, but here you would be classified as far-left/socialist.

I was reading some Canadian websites that classified Bernie and AOC as "left for America"....um they're both complete lunatics and most of America thinks so.

USA is not liberal like Canada and Europe, it just isn't.

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by Mister 7

..... USA is not liberal like Canada and Europe, it just isn't.

I agree with that. It doesn't even mean the same things in Canada and Europe that it means in USA.
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[Halcyon18]

Bernie Sanders and AOC aren’t considered leftists in Canada? I get the impression that they’d fit right in with the NDP, which is considered Canada’s left, right?

[cdnirene]

Originally Posted by Halcyon18

Bernie Sanders and AOC aren’t considered leftists in Canada? I get the impression that they’d fit right in with the NDP, which is considered Canada’s left, right?

I’ve been following the Political Compass website since around 2002. It’s interesting how they place various candidates and parties on the political spectrum.

Canada Federal Elections 2019: https://www.politicalcompass.org/canada2019
As the site notes: Canada’s political fulcrum has shifted to the right

US Presidential Candidates 2020: https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

UK Parties 2017 General Election: https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2017

I remember when I first found the site. I took the political quizz they offered to see where I fit on the political spectrum. The problem was the quizz was intended for Americans. So I was scratching my head how to respond to a number of questions which weren’t much of a concern to Canadians and I had only vague opinions on.

[UrbanLuis]

Originally Posted by Halcyon18

Bernie Sanders and AOC aren’t considered leftists in Canada? I get the impression that they’d fit right in with the NDP, which is considered Canada’s left, right?

Yes the NDP is the real left in Canada. Some liberal supporters like to pretend they are.

[Zoisite]

Originally Posted by Halcyon18

Bernie Sanders and AOC aren’t considered leftists in Canada? I get the impression that they’d fit right in with the NDP, which is considered Canada’s left, right?

I really don't follow American politics much so first I had to do an internet search to find out who they are, and I found the proper name of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. All this time when I've been seeing it on the forum I had been thinking AOC was the name of some American corporation or some political group or something like that. LOL.

Anyways, I discovered she is one of that group of women that Trump recently vilified as "nasty women" and lied about them and told them all to go back to the countries they came from. See, I did know about those incidents with those women since it was on the news here.

So anyway, setting all of that stuff aside, now that I know who they are and have read the portfolios of both of them on the wiki site, yes I'd say that they would be called liberal (not left) rather than conservative (not right) in Canada and they could fit in with either the NDP or the Green Party. And maybe even to some extent they might fit in with the Liberal Party but based on what I read about them I think the Liberal Party of Canada is probably rather more conservative than Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez would be comfortable with.
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[TheseGoTo11]

I can't imagine living in Canada given how low wages are there. $45,000 per capita GDP? 1/3rd lower than the U.S? Even with all the oil money? wtf?

I know quite a few Canadian natives in the tech industry here, and to a person none will move to work in Toronto or Vancouver due to the low wages.

[TheseGoTo11]

Find it interesting that US companies raise $130 billion/year in VC, while Canadian companies only raise $4 billion. No top tier investor or entrepreneur stays up there. There isn't a Canadian Tesla, Apple, Google, Facebook, or Genentech, and there isn't about to be.