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Old 06-09-2010, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Hi all,
I've seen posts asking, "why become a Christian if all will be saved in the end anyway?"
Well, coming from an unbeliever, I can understand this POV. But a Christian should be able to grasp this easily, IMO.

This is how God saves:
He calls the person He wants to save, and that person responds to the call in his/her heart to be saved/seek God.
As a result, the individual's life changes noticeably. For example, when I got "called" and "responded," I then received what I consider a "baptism in the Holy Ghost." I was filled with joy. I remember the experience well, and I can say that it is the BEST experience I've ever had so far in my life.
How do I know it was from God? Look at the fruits: I began to pray for hours! It was a joy to pray! I liked talking about Jesus to people, and posting things about Him on my dorm room door. (People thought I was "going off the deep end.")
I also felt noticeably less "attached" to the things of the world. It didn't mean that I didn't enjoy pizza anymore, only that I could do without it and not suffer. The Lord became my first thought of the day, the last thought before bed; in a word, my ALL. I was IN LOVE!

Now this transition is a witness to the world. And God calls others to "seek Him" through believers. But God is not revealing Himself to the world right now. It is not His time.
But in the fullness of time, when the time of the gentiles is fulfilled, then some say THAT is when the coming/presence of the Son of God will come "as lightning that lights the sky from west to east." Multitudes will be converted, perhaps whole nations at a time.

The point is that it's God's move, not ours. And right now He is revealing Himself only to individuals, not to the whole world. Those of us who are blessed to have been "given" this salvation can rejoice to know that it is GOD's work, and He will have His desire fulfilled!

Blessings to all,
brian

Ps. I'm gonna start the "Book of Job" thread soon! Even though I'm not a great writer..!
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Hi all,
I've seen posts asking, "why become a Christian if all will be saved in the end anyway?"
Well, coming from an unbeliever, I can understand this POV. But a Christian should be able to grasp this easily, IMO.

This is how God saves:
He calls the person He wants to save, and that person responds to the call in his/her heart to be saved/seek God.
As a result, the individual's life changes noticeably. For example, when I got "called" and "responded," I then received what I consider a "baptism in the Holy Ghost." I was filled with joy. I remember the experience well, and I can say that it is the BEST experience I've ever had so far in my life.
How do I know it was from God? Look at the fruits: I began to pray for hours! It was a joy to pray! I liked talking about Jesus to people, and posting things about Him on my dorm room door. (People thought I was "going off the deep end.")
I also felt noticeably less "attached" to the things of the world. It didn't mean that I didn't enjoy pizza anymore, only that I could do without it and not suffer. The Lord became my first thought of the day, the last thought before bed; in a word, my ALL. I was IN LOVE!

Now this transition is a witness to the world. And God calls others to "seek Him" through believers. But God is not revealing Himself to the world right now. It is not His time.
But in the fullness of time, when the time of the gentiles is fulfilled, then some say THAT is when the coming/presence of the Son of God will come "as lightning that lights the sky from west to east." Multitudes will be converted, perhaps whole nations at a time.

The point is that it's God's move, not ours. And right now He is revealing Himself only to individuals, not to the whole world. Those of us who are blessed to have been "given" this salvation can rejoice to know that it is GOD's work, and He will have His desire fulfilled!

Blessings to all,
brian

Ps. I'm gonna start the "Book of Job" thread soon! Even though I'm not a great writer..!
I am looking forward to the study on the book of Job. That is one of my fave OT books.
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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So why are you an unbeliever?
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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I am looking forward to the study on the book of Job. That is one of my fave OT books.
I should reread Job. I'm a bit rusty, but I do remember that it's a good book.
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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Eby answered the question of why we should preach:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/13317917-post1.html
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Italy
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So why are you an unbeliever?
No! I mean, an unbeliever who says "what's the point of being a Christian?" I can understand.
But a believer knows the joy, the love, the peace that passes all understanding.

blessings,
brian
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Old 06-09-2010, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Eby answered the question of why we should preach:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/13317917-post1.html
That's it!

blessings!
brian
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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[quote=ahigherway;14543052]
Well, coming from an unbeliever, I can understand this POV.

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No! I mean, an unbeliever who says "what's the point of being a Christian?" I can understand.
But a believer knows the joy, the love, the peace that passes all understanding.

blessings,
brian
Sorry, I was very confused. When you wrote, "Coming from an unbeliever" I thought you meant you were the unbeliever, but then in the next paragraphs you wrote about being a believer so I was so lost. I gotcha now
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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That's why it says: "God is the saviour of all mankind, ESPECIALLY them that believe" 1 Timothy 4:10.

And "each in his own order" (1 Corinthians 15:22-28).

God is choosing and giving faith to the select few NOW for life through the ages to come.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Pilot Point, TX
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God is choosing and giving faith to the select few NOW for life through the ages to come.
That gives us purpose to be consumed with His life - tabernacles of the Most High - for creation is waiting for you-know-who. (Rom 8:19)

Not the rapture.
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