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Old 08-12-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Which is cast into the Lake of Fire, no more dying.
No, the Bible does not teach that second death is cast into lake of fire, it says the lake of fire is the second death.
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Old 08-12-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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So you believe that hell is cast into itself?
Hades is cast into the lake of fire.
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Old 08-12-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Hades is cast into the lake of fire.
Exactly, no more dying for death and the grave will no longer exist according to the thoughts of men.
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Hades is cast into the lake of fire.
So you admit that Hades is the grave?
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Old 08-12-2011, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Wa
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So you admit that Hades is the grave?
I don't think Finn is a Preterist
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Then why do so many professed Christians keep dying.

If you believe in Him and live, ye shall "Never" die. Never see death.

He laid His life down, so we don't have to. Though we keep seeing death, not too many true followers.
God revealed that when a believer dies physically..he also teaches that as "sleeping" or "fallen asleep" but when the unbeliever dies it is "death"

That "death" is his just judgement and wrath (John 3:36).
The believer will never see that.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Agreed...for when one overcomes (gets control of) their egoic/carnal nature and evolves consciously to the highest level...one will realize that there is no such thing as "death"...so the dying of ones physical form is just that...what we truly are lives on just in a different form.
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Exactly, no more dying for death and the grave will no longer exist according to the thoughts of men.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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God revealed that when a believer dies physically..he also teaches that as "sleeping" or "fallen asleep" but when the unbeliever dies it is "death"

That "death" is his just judgement and wrath (John 3:36).
The believer will never see that.
You do understand that "energy" which is what we are...cannot "die" don't you???? The only thing that dies is the carcass we are encased in...who we truly are never dies...our energy will just take a different form...so there is really no such thing as "death".
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:55 AM
 
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You do understand that "energy" which is what we are...cannot "die" don't you???? The only thing that dies is the carcass we are encased in...who we truly are never dies...our energy will just take a different form...so there is really no such thing as "death".
The second death is a mercy to the wicked. It is where their energy is absorbed back into the love of God substance.

Do you not believe that Jesus taught that death "physical" can be overcome?

There is a law irrevocably decreed in heaven, that love conquers all things.

Even death.

Why do people continue to die, in Christ.

Because love is not perfected in them.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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The second death is a mercy to the wicked. It is where their energy is absorbed back into the love of God substance.

Do you not believe that Jesus taught that death "physical" can be overcome?

There is a law irrevocably decreed in heaven, that love conquers all things.

Even death.

Why do people continue to die, in Christ.

Because love is not perfected in them.
Yes I do...but you are equating "physical" death with that of the "physical body"...that is not what Jesus was teaching...for the "physical body" is not who we truly are. Who we truly are NEVER DIES.
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