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Old 08-13-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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You do understand that "energy" which is what we are...cannot "die" don't you???? The only thing that dies is the carcass we are encased in...who we truly are never dies...our energy will just take a different form...so there is really no such thing as "death".
Certainly wisdom that was gained by spirits inhabiting the inner-self that doesn't hold to the truth from where Jesus always pointed to .... "It is written"

Tell the spirit that that "energy" his God (whom he hates and will be destroyed some day) declared it to be a "soul".

As it is written...

Ezekiel 18:20The soul that sins, it shall die.

Matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


"Ha" yourself ...evil spirit. You know whom "the One" is:

Luke 4:34

“Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:55 AM
 
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The first death is death to the self. The sin nature.

If you die in your sins, you are at risk of the second death.

If you overcome sin through Christ, you have no more death.

Overcoming sin through Christ, is the self (sin) dying.
You see, The Christ I serve, took away sin for His People, they don't have do anything, Christ did it for them.

Jn 1:29

29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Dan 12:


24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

We, God's People, rest in His work..
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You see, The Christ I serve, took away sin for His People, they don't have do anything, Christ did it for them.

Jn 1:29

29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Dan 12:

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

We, God's People, rest in His work..
The next day John saw Jesus coming, and said: "Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of humanity."

For Seventy weeks are determined upon the people, and upon the Holy City to FINISH THE TRANSGRESSION, putting an end to sin.

MAKING RECONCILIATION FOR THEIR INIQUITY AND ESTABLISHING HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS BY SEALING UP THE VISION AND PROPHECY OF HIS COMING.
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So you admit that Hades is the grave?
Admit? Where did I say Hades is grave? No one said anything about a grave.
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:58 PM
 
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You asked, and I will answer: second death is hell.
Death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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Death and hell are cast into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Hades was translated as hell in some translations, but if you study, you will learn the meaning.

Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

But of course you can call the lake of fire anything you wish. What would you prefer to call it?
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Old 08-13-2011, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Hades was translated as hell in some translations, but if you study, you will learn the meaning.

Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

But of course you can call the lake of fire anything you wish. What would you prefer to call it?
Then death and Hades (hell, the grave) were thrown into the Lake of Fire.
If you study, you will learn the true meaning of the Lake of Fire:

"A safe harbor of refinement which purifies the soul, isn't that refreshing."



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Old 08-13-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Then death and Hades (hell, the grave) were thrown into the Lake of Fire.
If you study, you will learn the true meaning of the Lake of Fire:

"A safe harbor of refinement which purifies the soul, isn't that refreshing."
Second death is a safe harbor? Sigh....

How do you throw a grave, a hole in the ground, anywhere? Have you ever tried to pick up a hole?
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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Hell is the pace of complete spiritual darkness. That is where the Devil and his demons reside with chains. 2PET 2:4 "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" Then He will not spare the ungodly if they continue in their ways.

Hell is to a great degree among us even now. JAS 3:6 "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell." What is wrong with the coarse of the nature of man is that it is set on fire of Hell.

The Devil reaches out from Hell to draw us into to the completeness of the Hell that he is in, because he knows he has but a short time left. He hates all that God created and is angry that God is going to punish him forever. REV 12:12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens [1st, 2nd, and third which is to say; us, paradise, and the finale abode of all in Christ], and you that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time. It is he that is causing the destruction's in the earth. The second death will be the same fate the awaits the Devil. The lake of fire.

Why does God allow the "Devil to go about as a roaring lion?" To try the hearts of mankind. To give mankind an opportunity to rise up to the greatness of Christ by His Power and to help put a end to the madness. Take away the opportunity to fight and you take away the freedom to choose and to know the exhilaration of conquest over evil and the joy of bringing salvation in it's manifold ways to our fellow man, such as salvation from sin, poverty, ill health, loneliness, ignorance and etc, etc. God has given the earth to mankind but mankind has given it's strength to sin and the Devil who is called the God of this world. He rules over the unbeliever to great extent. But through the Gospel we can bring salvation to our corner of the world and beyond.


That is why Jesus said, "I will build My church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." The only way to cut down on the influence of Hell is through the Gospel. Jesus said. "I give you power over all the power of the enemy."
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Old 08-13-2011, 05:24 PM
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The second death is the LAKE OF FIRE for every man that breaks GOD's Laws, Statutes, and COMMANDMENTS as explained in the book of REVELATION.


REVELATION 21:8 But the Fearful, the unbelieving, and the Abominable, the Murderer's, the Sorcerers, the Idoliters, and all the Liars shall have there part in the lake which burneth with fire and Brimstone: WHICH IS THE SECOND DEATH.



The First Ressurection is for everyone that walked RIGHTEOUSLY and got things right while they were living. They are the ones that will reign for a thousands years with Christ before he has the "Second Ressureaction". The people that Christ rise on the Second Ressurection will be the Multitudes of people that were sinners and some that were straddleling the gate, but that is the Ressurection that you "DONT" wanna be in because most of them will recieve the "SECOND DEATH". The people that make the First Ressurection are the ELECTS who's names are in the book of life and are guarenteed to make it into the KINGDOM.
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