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Old 05-03-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Wow! You sound like a real loving person! Real "Christ-like!"


Peace,
brian
Love of country, love of freedom. The soldier whether he be Christian or not, fights to defend his country which means the lives of those who live in his country.

The Christian has a dual citizenship. He is a citizen of heaven, and a citizen of the country in which he lives. He has a duty to both. Killing the enemy on the battlefield in war is the Christian thing to do.

When Christ returns at the end of the Tribulation He will slay millions with the sword of His mouth (Rev 19:11-21).
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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Love of country, love of freedom. The soldier whether he be Christian or not, fights to defend his country which means the lives of those who live in his country.

The Christian has a dual citizenship. He is a citizen of heaven, and a citizen of the country in which he lives. He has a duty to both. Killing the enemy on the battlefield in war is the Christian thing to do.

When Christ returns at the end of the Tribulation He will slay millions with the sword of His mouth (Rev 19:11-21).
No, Christians are to follow Christ. It is impossible to follow Christ and a non-Christian country.

Apparently you have mixed associations..


peace,
brian
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Well..... for someone who is such an advocate for peace "LOVE thine enemies."sure does their share of provoking other's, sowing discord among the brethren...... and then those silly snare remarks toward those who believe God has ordain our protection through a institution called the US military from the enemies of aggression..... that darn passive aggressive behavior anyways.....

By the way..... why are you here in this forum all the time, debating, arguing, sowing discord with other's rather then out sowing seeds of love and peace in a world full of chaos ?.... Christianity 101.... Brian
If you are "offended" that I say that man is not supposed to kill his fellow man, then I don't know how to help you.


Peace,
brian
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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No, Christians are to follow Christ. It is impossible to follow Christ and a non-Christian country.

Apparently you have mixed associations..


peace,
brian
Remain silent about things of which you know nothing. Romans 13:1 'Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. This country though not a Christian country, for there is no such thing, was nevertheless founded on Biblical principles. The Christian has the responsibility to defend the lives of law abiding citizens, and freedom. To take a stand for justice.

You do not follow Christ. You have sided with and serve the interests of Satan. You who call the word of God stale old manna. You who promote the lie that all will be saved. You are an enemy of the cross. You are a deceiver.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Remain silent about things of which you know nothing.
LMAO...actually, I agree with Mike here, God forbid...lol
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Remain silent about things of which you know nothing. Romans 13:1 'Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. This country though not a Christian country, for there is no such thing, was nevertheless founded on Biblical principles. The Christian has the responsibility to defend the lives of law abiding citizens, and freedom. To take a stand for justice.

You do not follow Christ. You have sided with and serve the interests of Satan. You who call the word of God stale old manna. You who promote the lie that all will be saved. You are an enemy of the cross. You are a deceiver.
Whatever, Mike.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what evil is. War is evil. Killing is evil. Lying is evil. Deception is evil. Pride is evil. Celebrating death is evil. Hate is evil. Condemning others is evil. Envy is evil. Lust for power is evil.

There's been a lot of evil going on recently.

Christians are called out of the world. "Ecclesia" is the word that is used. "Called out." Not "called in" to participate in bloodshed, but "called OUT" to preach peace and Life through Jesus Christ. You cannot serve God and mammon.


Peace,
brian
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Remain silent about things of which you know nothing. Romans 13:1 'Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. This country though not a Christian country, for there is no such thing, was nevertheless founded on Biblical principles. The Christian has the responsibility to defend the lives of law abiding citizens, and freedom. To take a stand for justice.

You do not follow Christ. You have sided with and serve the interests of Satan. You who call the word of God stale old manna. You who promote the lie that all will be saved. You are an enemy of the cross. You are a deceiver.
So Christians in Germany were bound by the commands of Paul to obey Hitler and his government, and those Christian Germans who hid the Jews and protected them against the will of their government were in fact sinning against God, according to your warped interpretations ...

We are to obey our governments, so long as their commands to not contradict the commands of Christ. However, it is obvious that many here do not even know Christ in truth nor understand his law of love, nor are they even able to obey his commands because they are hardened and stiff necked, and their hearts are full of violence and hate, as their words plainly demonstrate time and again.

Wicked servants shall be cast into prison and handed over to the correction officers to be beaten with many stripes and will pay until the last penny is spent ...

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Old 05-03-2011, 01:11 PM
 
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Here is the part I don't understand.

It is human nature to want someone to die who tortured, maimed, and killed another human being.

But supposedly Christians believe that God offers salvation to torturers and murders too.

So, if a Christian really wants to see everyone saved, wouldn't they be against the death penalty just to give the murderer every chance to get saved before they die?

It seems not. I always see Christians calling for the death penalty.
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Italy
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Here is the part I don't understand.

It is human nature to want someone to die who tortured, maimed, and killed another human being.

But supposedly Christians believe that God offers salvation to torturers and murders too.

So, if a Christian really wants to see everyone saved, wouldn't they be against the death penalty just to give the murderer every chance to get saved before they die?

It seems not. I always see Christians calling for the death penalty.
You're completely correct. Many Christians are not Christians in their hearts, but only with their mouths. IF they wanted to be like Christ (hence the name "Christian,") then they would do what Jesus tells us to do.


Blessings,
brian
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Old 05-03-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Pike Road, Alabama
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Here is the part I don't understand.

It is human nature to want someone to die who tortured, maimed, and killed another human being.

But supposedly Christians believe that God offers salvation to torturers and murders too.

So, if a Christian really wants to see everyone saved, wouldn't they be against the death penalty just to give the murderer every chance to get saved before they die?

It seems not. I always see Christians calling for the death penalty.
They should be if they are serious followers of Jesus, but as we've clearly seen on this thread, the majority of Christians just pay lip service to Him. The lives of other human beings are not ours to take, for any reason...and those who attempt to make justifications for doing it, don't know the first thing about Jesus and what he actually taught, no matter how much they blather about Him.

Jesus said...you will know them by their fruit...and we can certainly ascertain which ones here take their walk seriously and which ones don't.
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