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Old 05-03-2011, 06:08 AM
Itz
 
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It is not morally right to celebrate his death and I have found it quite disturbing that so many people are ready to rejoice at it. The evil behind which Osama stood for wills till live on... ONE man was killed.. the evil was not.

It is not justice to the families who have lost loved ones over this entire ordeal but perhaps it will give them some peace of mind and closure. As humans we strive for a "bad guy" to exact justive upon. Osama was that bad guy. Now that bad guy has been eliminated many feel the need to rejoice as it has lifted a weight off their shoulders.. They just fail to realize that the evil still lives on and as humans we will need to wait to pin the evil on another idol.

I am glad that a bit of that evil has left the world though, but I do not rejoice at the death of a man - evil or not.

 
Old 05-03-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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This question has been on my mind today. My initial reaction to the cheering in the streets was a feeling of embarrassment.

Is it morally right to celebrate bin Laden's death?
Only if it's done for the right reasons. We are here temporarily. To gain experience. When we take anothers life, no matter what they have done, we should not celebrate that aspect. However, since I am not yet perfect, I do believe that an habitual criminal would be better off in the spirit world. It doesn't mean I wish death to them all. When we pass to the next world, it is a gift and one that should be celebrated as that is our rightful place to finish out our existance.

Death isn't easy for anyone as we become attached to our friends and family. It's even harder when the enemy is the one dying and we remain at a loss for thought because we have not yet learned to Love the way that God loves.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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I hate to repeat myself . . . but this seems to be necessary. Your zeal for the guidance of Christ is one thing . . . the lack of reality orientation is disturbing however. We are NOT Jesus . . . this is not heaven and God's will does not yet rule here. We do. We have Dominion . . . but that means ALL of us and most of us are not very Christlike. That must be dealt with and we do not have God's power to convert them all to Christ's example . . . including ourselves. We are ONLY people who live in a real world with real people and real issues . . so any idealistic claptrap and judgmental condemnation FOR ANY REASON (Christian or not) is not helpful.

Establishing principles for our nation, setting idealistic goals and striving for them is one thing . . . pretending they have been achieved or should have been and condemning the measures we take because they have NOT been achieved is quite another. I would say that idealists need to grow up . . . but I fear the judgmental attitudes are NOT from youthful idealism . . . which somehow makes it worse.

No one disagrees with the ideals . . . that seems to be something too many idealists cannot get through their heads, The true enigma is getting there and the impediments (very real human impediments) that idealists ignore as if they were of no consequence. If some idealist has some hidden Godly power they have not revealed to us whereby they can transform humanity in a flash or with a bolt of lightning or whatever . . . be our guest. Otherwise live in the real world and do the best you can to stay off your high horse and struggle with the rest of us stuck down here in the mud of humanity.
Maybe u r the one who needs to take your own advice. If u think the horse is too high don't wallow in the dirt
 
Old 05-03-2011, 07:14 AM
 
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It is not morally right to celebrate his death and I have found it quite disturbing that so many people are ready to rejoice at it. The evil behind which Osama stood for wills till live on... ONE man was killed.. the evil was not.

It is not justice to the families who have lost loved ones over this entire ordeal but perhaps it will give them some peace of mind and closure. As humans we strive for a "bad guy" to exact justive upon. Osama was that bad guy. Now that bad guy has been eliminated many feel the need to rejoice as it has lifted a weight off their shoulders.. They just fail to realize that the evil still lives on and as humans we will need to wait to pin the evil on another idol.

I am glad that a bit of that evil has left the world though, but I do not rejoice at the death of a man - evil or not.
I think I agree with u... I can rejoice over the Military operation and show patriotic pride and I can be happy that people got the closure and or peace they needed to that end without dancing on someone's grave. We do have power over how we live our lives... There is no moral high horse in that.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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"Scripture tells us that it's wrong to gloat and celebrate over these types of things:
Pro 24:17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
Pro 24:18 Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.


Best not to do it.."


Amen.... totally agree !!!
 
Old 05-03-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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Interestingly, John Piper wrote a blog about this. I think it's very interesting, food for thought.

http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/post...in-ladens-dead
 
Old 05-03-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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There are many examples of God using armies to send his Justice/Judgement upon men and nations throughout scripture.
A false prophet was destroyed. Rejoice in the things that are of God, boast in the things that are of God.
 
Old 05-03-2011, 11:24 AM
 
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Maybe u r the one who needs to take your own advice. If u think the horse is too high don't wallow in the dirt
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I think I agree with u... I can rejoice over the Military operation and show patriotic pride and I can be happy that people got the closure and or peace they needed to that end without dancing on someone's grave. We do have power over how we live our lives... There is no moral high horse in that.
Look deeper within yourselves for these attributions of bloodthirstiness and pridefulness because they do not automatically attend reactions to the death of Evil. Relief, closure, hope for a better future, reduced anxiety, etc. etc. are equally probable attributions . . . as are many others. The reactions are tied to the impact this man's evil had on each individual. Moderator cut: deleted

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Old 05-03-2011, 11:38 AM
 
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Look deeper within yourselves for these attributions of bloodthirstiness and pridefulness because they do not automatically attend reactions to the death of Evil. Relief, closure, hope for a better future, reduced anxiety, etc. etc. are equally probable attributions . . . as are many others. The reactions are tied to the impact this man's evil had on each individual. Moderator cut: Orphaned
The relief, "closure," hope and reduced anxiety can be given in many ways. Support for the ones killed in 9/11 could have been greater, and in particular, on behalf of the US government.

But killing people is not a way to "comfort" people. Killing is animal instinct, flesh; nothing more.

"LOVE your enemies." Gotta keep repeating this one!


Blessings,
brian

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Old 05-03-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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This thread makes me wonder - would the celebrations have been so jubilant if he had been captured alive? I don't think so. I'm not sure what to make of that.
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