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You are not accurately presenting what Verna said. You are over simplifying to be dramatic.
Again you are over simplifying. He is not saying ANY one sin. Speeding is a sin but he is not suggesting you could lose salvation for that. He has linked the idea of salavation secured by repentance too, so that ANY one sin is not automatically a loss of salvation.
No one expects that we will all agree, but the argumentative banter created by grossly misrepresenting the ideas presented in other's posts is hardly a sign of integrity.
You accuse others of not considering the information presented, and yet you are one of the greatest offenders of that principle....
Nope, no change Finn, all's good! Even better now that BWW1962 clarified your oversimplification of my statement. I'm happy!
LOL. I quoted your own words, and you confirm what I said is accurate, (you don't want to change anything), yet you accuse me of "oversimplifying" your statement.
You are basically saying my comment was accurate, but not accurate. heh-heh.
It's OK, i understand your desire to support BWW1962, even when he is wrong.
Nope, no change Finn, all's good! Even better now that BWW1962 clarified your oversimplification of my statement. I'm happy!
Ok, this back and forth thing has got me a little confused and I don't have the time tonight to read back 100 posts. Are you really saying "one strike and your out?" One willful sin and God throws you in the torture lake for eternity even if you were once saved and its not possible to repent of it? I hope this is not the case but If so, you will have redefined extreme fundamentalism for me
i was once a bible believing church going christian, now i have serious douibts bout things, not really sure it was all real, I started reading history and found out that things dont add up here very well, I would like to be wrong but from what I had researched it looks as if I been wrong all along, I would like to believe in jesus but I have doubts, am i going to heaven or am i doomed for hell?
i was once a bible believing church going christian, now i have serious douibts bout things, not really sure it was all real, I started reading history and found out that things dont add up here very well, I would like to be wrong but from what I had researched it looks as if I been wrong all along, I would like to believe in jesus but I have doubts, am i going to heaven or am i doomed for hell?
No one here can tell where you are going, because only God knows if your name is on the Lambs Book Of Life. Unfortunately "church going" means nothing, as the only thing that matters is whether or not you are saved. Have you been born again?
i was once a bible believing church going christian, now i have serious douibts bout things, not really sure it was all real, I started reading history and found out that things dont add up here very well, I would like to be wrong but from what I had researched it looks as if I been wrong all along, I would like to believe in jesus but I have doubts, am i going to heaven or am i doomed for hell?
If you once truly placed your trust in Christ for your eternal salvation, that is, if you ever at any time placed your faith alone in Christ alone in response to the gospel message, then you were eternally saved at the very moment and you cannot lose your salvation. You cannot walk away from your salvation.
If you understand that you are a sinner and in need of salvation, and that you cannot save yourself; if you understand that God did something about that by sending Jesus Christ, the Son of God into the world, to go to the cross and die a substitutionary death on your behalf, that He died for your sins, was buried and resurrected, and you therefore trusted in Christ for your salvation, then you are eternally saved. Even if you no longer believe in Him. 'If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.' (2 Tim 2:13)
Last edited by Michael Way; 12-03-2011 at 07:10 PM..
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