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Old 12-14-2012, 05:57 AM
 
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Jesus IS that. What greater statement do you need ?. Who else is the Light to the Gentiles ?.

You are dodging...
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:04 AM
 
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You are dodging...
What purpose does it serve me to dodge anything ?.

"I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my name, I said, 'Here am I, here am I.

If you were found you had to be lost, does this not make any sense to you Richard?, or would you rather cling to your exclusive club mentality ?
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:42 AM
 
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Maybe it would help me if Richard could explain WHY access to Spiritual Growth and Satisfaction has to be carefully limited to only a designated few. I for myself never got that from the Bible itself though the theme does seem to crop up from time to time else where. I'm not sure why God could not simply decide to open the doors and just let people "walk-in".

After all, He IS God and can pretty much do whatever He wants and no particular explanation necessary. Thoughts?
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Old 12-14-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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What purpose does it serve me to dodge anything ?.

"I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my name, I said, 'Here am I, here am I.

If you were found you had to be lost, does this not make any sense to you Richard?, or would you rather cling to your exclusive club mentality ?
He came exclusively for the lost sheep of the house of Israel...
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:01 PM
 
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Maybe it would help me if Richard could explain WHY access to Spiritual Growth and Satisfaction has to be carefully limited to only a designated few. I for myself never got that from the Bible itself though the theme does seem to crop up from time to time else where. I'm not sure why God could not simply decide to open the doors and just let people "walk-in".

After all, He IS God and can pretty much do whatever He wants and no particular explanation necessary. Thoughts?

Exactly, and He does do as He wishes....
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Old 12-14-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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He came exclusively for the lost sheep of the house of Israel...
In the flesh that was so but He healed all Gentles who came to Him while in the body. He worked through others to minister to the Gentles at large after the resurrection. One of Gods' methods is to work from a focal point and then to expand outward. Focalized so that the message is clear to the rest.
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Old 12-14-2012, 05:28 PM
 
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He came exclusively for the lost sheep of the house of Israel...
No he didn't . He came for man who He made in His own image.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

for even as in Adam ALL( Jew and Greek) die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, the Jew, the Greek and whoever you want to stick a label on died( where lost)in Adam.
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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No he didn't . He came for man who He made in His own image.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

for even as in Adam ALL( Jew and Greek) die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive, the Jew, the Greek and whoever you want to stick a label on died( where lost)in Adam.

Prove it...
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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In the flesh that was so but He healed all Gentles who came to Him while in the body. He worked through others to minister to the Gentles at large after the resurrection. One of Gods' methods is to work from a focal point and then to expand outward. Focalized so that the message is clear to the rest.
Prove it...
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Old 12-14-2012, 06:11 PM
 
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Prove it...
He came to seek and save the lost. Hands up if you were lost .
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