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Old 07-21-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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Did you know that Jesus gave the saints information concerning the ONLY place one can go to be protected during the Great Tribulation?


The question is, "Will you trust your God and His words and do as instructed, or will you wait and trust in the false teachings of man and wait on the "rapture"?


For those that are alive...this will be one of the biggest choices you will probably ever have to make; Stay and wait for something that God's word NEVER says will happen (the man-made doctrine of the 'rapture'), or do as Jesus tells you and FLEE? Let's read.....


Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:


Jesus warns us that when we see those things happening that was spoken by Daniel, mainly, the son of perdiction as Paul calls him, the saints are to flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea.


Jesus warns us that fleeing is so important, that when we see the man of sin placed in the newly built temple in Jerusalem, we are not to go back for clothes or return home for anything.....we are to make haste and get to His place of safety; the mountains surrounding Judaea.


And why does He tell us this with such urgency? Well....let's read what will come upon the entire world when this man of sin is placed into the temple.....


Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Jesus warns us that once the man is placed into the temple, there will come upon the earth a time of troubles that will be so bad, there has NEVER been a time like it before and there will NEVER be a time like it ever again.


Now let me ask you something.....how many times can such a time happen? Only ONCE!



Now tell me.....do you and your family really want to experience a time such as this? Do you want to risk the lives of your family on a man-made doctrine of a 'secret rapture', that God's word NEVER says will happen before the Great Tribulation period?


That's a BIG risk!


Jesus tells His saints to flee! Will you do as instructed, thus saving your family? Or will you let the new house, bank account, cars or what friends and family say keep you here to suffer with the rest of those that refused to listen to the word of God?


Will you flee to God's place of safety and be a child of Light.....or will you stay and suffer and take the mark of the Beast?


Remember this if nothing else;



1. A temple WILL be built!

2. Sacrifices WILL begin once again!

3. A man that claims peace WILL be placed in the newly built temple and
stop the sacrifices!




When you see all that God has warned us about.....what will YOU do?


You do have a choice!


Flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea and save you and your family? Or stay and wait for man's false secret 'rapture'?


.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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One place of safety during the great tribulation - Rev. 7 v 14

The great crowd [ Rev. 7 v 9,10 ] of humble sheep-like people [ Matthew 25 vs 31,32 ] are to enter their chambers [ interior rooms ] and hide for a moment until the indignation or the denunciation is past.- see: Isaiah 26 v 20

Exodus chapter 12 also mentions how the ancient Israelites were in a place of safety behind shut doors at their time frame.

Psalm 27 v 5
Psalm 37 v 7
Psalm 57 v 1
Psalm 91 v 4

The humble sheep-like ones living on Earth [ Matthew 25 vs 31,32 ] at the soon coming 'time of separation' are alive on Earth, and can remain alive on Earth, right into the start of Jesus' coming 1000-year reign over Earth because those 'sheep' do not die but can remain alive on Earth.- Proverbs 2 vs 21,22. They come through, or they come out, of the great tribulation alive on Earth - Rev. 7 v 14.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:39 PM
 
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>>>>>There will only be ONE place of safety during the Great Tribulation.....

Earth
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:47 PM
 
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>>>>>There will only be ONE place of safety during the Great Tribulation.....

Earth

But not just ANYWHERE on this great big planet....there is only one place where we are instructed to go that will keep all that come safe!


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Old 07-21-2013, 01:57 PM
 
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In the ' minor ' fulfillment of Matthew 24 v 15 and Luke 19 vs 43,44; 21 vs 20,21 in the year 66 CE, four years before the siege by the of Jerusalem by the Roman armies under Titus, the Christians fled from Jerusalem for the mountainous region of Pella [ Pella according to historian Eusebius ].

The 'abomination of desolation ' back then proved to be the Roman armies.
Besides the year 70, in the past God also used the political/military world to serve as his long arm of the law to carry out divine justice.
So, the 'abomination' in the MAJOR fulfillment of Matthew 24 and Luke 21 will be political/ military [ Rev. 17 v 17 ]
The United Nations already sees a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing on earth today.
The world's religious groups meddling in world affairs has placed them on the UN radar, so to speak, so that an anti-religious atmosphere exists in the UN's feelings and attitudes toward troublesome religions.
With backing the UN can be strengthened to become God's ' arm of the law ' to carry out his justice against the world's false religious sector.
Today Christians do not have to flee to Pella, etc. but merely stand still and see salvation by God.- 1st Chron. 20 v 17; Exodus 14 vs 13,14
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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But not just ANYWHERE on this great big planet....there is only one place where we are instructed to go that will keep all that come safe!


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Yes, let me guess....Petra?

You see, I used to follow all this stuff when I was a young, wet-behind-the-ears Christian convert. Of course, years later I've grown up quite a bit.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:06 PM
 
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>>>>>There will only be ONE place of safety during the Great Tribulation.....
Earth
Apparently you are right about ' safety on earth ' because in the major fulfillment of 2nd Chronicles 20 vs 17, 29 we do not need to fight but to stand still [ Isaiah 26 v 20 the one place of safety, so to speak, on earth ] and see the salvation by God. Stand still on earth [ Not go to Pella ] because its the words from Jesus' mouth that will rid the earth of the wicked.

- Isaiah 11 vs 3,4; Rev. 19 vs 11,15; Jeremiah 25 vs 31-33
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:13 PM
 
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Did you know that Jesus gave the saints information concerning the ONLY place one can go to be protected during the Great Tribulation?


The question is, "Will you trust your God and His words and do as instructed, or will you wait and trust in the false teachings of man and wait on the "rapture"?


For those that are alive...this will be one of the biggest choices you will probably ever have to make; Stay and wait for something that God's word NEVER says will happen (the man-made doctrine of the 'rapture'), or do as Jesus tells you and FLEE? Let's read.....


Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:


Jesus warns us that when we see those things happening that was spoken by Daniel, mainly, the son of perdiction as Paul calls him, the saints are to flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea.


Jesus warns us that fleeing is so important, that when we see the man of sin placed in the newly built temple in Jerusalem, we are not to go back for clothes or return home for anything.....we are to make haste and get to His place of safety; the mountains surrounding Judaea.


And why does He tell us this with such urgency? Well....let's read what will come upon the entire world when this man of sin is placed into the temple.....


Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Jesus warns us that once the man is placed into the temple, there will come upon the earth a time of troubles that will be so bad, there has NEVER been a time like it before and there will NEVER be a time like it ever again.


Now let me ask you something.....how many times can such a time happen? Only ONCE!



Now tell me.....do you and your family really want to experience a time such as this? Do you want to risk the lives of your family on a man-made doctrine of a 'secret rapture', that God's word NEVER says will happen before the Great Tribulation period?


That's a BIG risk!


Jesus tells His saints to flee! Will you do as instructed, thus saving your family? Or will you let the new house, bank account, cars or what friends and family say keep you here to suffer with the rest of those that refused to listen to the word of God?


Will you flee to God's place of safety and be a child of Light.....or will you stay and suffer and take the mark of the Beast?


Remember this if nothing else;



1. A temple WILL be built!

2. Sacrifices WILL begin once again!

3. A man that claims peace WILL be placed in the newly built temple and
stop the sacrifices!




When you see all that God has warned us about.....what will YOU do?


You do have a choice!


Flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea and save you and your family? Or stay and wait for man's false secret 'rapture'?


.
This will not be a concern for the Church as the Church Age believer will have been taken up into heaven before the Tribulation (Daniel's seventieth week) ever begins. The Tribulational saints are not the Church. They are those who will come to believe on Christ during the Tribulation.
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:34 PM
 
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This will not be a concern for the Church as the Church Age believer will have been taken up into heaven before the Tribulation (Daniel's seventieth week) ever begins. The Tribulational saints are not the Church. They are those who will come to believe on Christ during the Tribulation.
The saints or holy ones of Daniel 7 v 18 are those of Luke 22 vs 28,29 who posses the kingdom [ Rev. 5 vs 9,10; 20 v 6 ]

The 70 weeks of years [ Daniel 9 vs 24, 25 ] is the prophecy about the time of Messiah appearing in the first century.

The time of Messiah's arrival was measured in ' weeks of years'. Meaning that each 'seek' was 7 years long. Meaning there would be 7 plus 62 of such weeks of years making it a total of 69 weeks of years. That would equal 483 years. That span of time began when God's servant Nehemiah arrived in Jerusalem and began to rebuild the city. Persian history establishes that date as being 455 BC [ see Nehemiah 2 vs 1-5 where Persian king Artaxerxes authroizes Nehemiah to restore and rebuild Jerusalem ] Because of Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks of years that is how the people of the first century knew that Messiah would be on the scene at that time frame, an how the people knew to be in 'expectation' of Messiah coming .
-Luke 3 v 15.

The 'great multitude' of Rev. 7 vs 9,10 are the humble 'sheep' of Matthew 25 vs 31,32. They ' come out ' of the great tribulation. Safely come out on earth.- Isaiah 26 v 20
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Old 07-21-2013, 02:48 PM
 
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Did you know that Jesus gave the saints information concerning the ONLY place one can go to be protected during the Great Tribulation?


The question is, "Will you trust your God and His words and do as instructed, or will you wait and trust in the false teachings of man and wait on the "rapture"?


For those that are alive...this will be one of the biggest choices you will probably ever have to make; Stay and wait for something that God's word NEVER says will happen (the man-made doctrine of the 'rapture'), or do as Jesus tells you and FLEE? Let's read.....


Matt.24
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:


Jesus warns us that when we see those things happening that was spoken by Daniel, mainly, the son of perdiction as Paul calls him, the saints are to flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea.


Jesus warns us that fleeing is so important, that when we see the man of sin placed in the newly built temple in Jerusalem, we are not to go back for clothes or return home for anything.....we are to make haste and get to His place of safety; the mountains surrounding Judaea.


And why does He tell us this with such urgency? Well....let's read what will come upon the entire world when this man of sin is placed into the temple.....


Matt.24
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Jesus warns us that once the man is placed into the temple, there will come upon the earth a time of troubles that will be so bad, there has NEVER been a time like it before and there will NEVER be a time like it ever again.


Now let me ask you something.....how many times can such a time happen? Only ONCE!



Now tell me.....do you and your family really want to experience a time such as this? Do you want to risk the lives of your family on a man-made doctrine of a 'secret rapture', that God's word NEVER says will happen before the Great Tribulation period?


That's a BIG risk!


Jesus tells His saints to flee! Will you do as instructed, thus saving your family? Or will you let the new house, bank account, cars or what friends and family say keep you here to suffer with the rest of those that refused to listen to the word of God?


Will you flee to God's place of safety and be a child of Light.....or will you stay and suffer and take the mark of the Beast?


Remember this if nothing else;



1. A temple WILL be built!

2. Sacrifices WILL begin once again!

3. A man that claims peace WILL be placed in the newly built temple and
stop the sacrifices!




When you see all that God has warned us about.....what will YOU do?


You do have a choice!


Flee to the mountains surrounding Judaea and save you and your family? Or stay and wait for man's false secret 'rapture'?


.
Luke 21:28 "Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

Believers will be raptured at the same time the great tribulation begins to happen. Why would Jesus leave us here to go through something God designed for the unbelievers? The rapture is not doctrine of man. It is scriptural.
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