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Old 03-02-2018, 11:56 PM
 
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How many gentiles prepare kosher?

Kosher is not a food preparation...Kosher is what G-d had named as food versus what G-d said was not food...


Kosher foods are those that conform to the regulations of kashrut (dietary law), primarily derived from Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Food that may be consumed according to halakha (law) is termed kosher ( /koʊʃər/) in English, from the Ashkenazi pronunciation of the Hebrew term kashér (כָּשֵׁר‬, /kɑːʃɛər/), meaning "fit" (in this context, fit for consumption). Food that is not in accordance with law is called treif (Yiddish: טרײף‎, /treɪf/, derived from Hebrew: טְרֵפָה‎ trāfáh) meaning "torn." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods

You are putting things there that aren't...You are only assuming that because he was eating with Gentiles that he was also eating Treif...A Jew would not call something that is Treif "food"...
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Old 03-04-2018, 07:10 AM
 
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Kosher is not a food preparation...Kosher is what G-d had named as food versus what G-d said was not food...


Kosher foods are those that conform to the regulations of kashrut (dietary law), primarily derived from Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Food that may be consumed according to halakha (law) is termed kosher ( /koʊʃər/) in English, from the Ashkenazi pronunciation of the Hebrew term kashér (כָּשֵׁר‬, /kɑːʃɛər/), meaning "fit" (in this context, fit for consumption). Food that is not in accordance with law is called treif (Yiddish: טרײף‎, /treɪf/, derived from Hebrew: טְרֵפָה‎ trāfáh) meaning "torn." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods

You are putting things there that aren't...You are only assuming that because he was eating with Gentiles that he was also eating Treif...A Jew would not call something that is Treif "food"...
Peter did, because God told him all food was clean.


He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds.

Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
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Old 03-05-2018, 12:14 AM
 
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First, it's not "my" Old Testament - There is only one and it is part of God's Word, the Bible for all. God and His truth is not determined or changed by human opinion or beliefs.

Second, God's New Testament covenant reconciled man to God by grace through Christ ... overcoming the inescapable fact that no one could keep the Commandments and law or come to God in their own righteousness. While the Old Testament contains about 300 prophecies concerning the coming of Christ the Messiah, the New Testament is the fulfillment and establishes that truth.

A few New Testament Scriptures that clarify that Salvation comes by grace through Christ, not works or law keeping include:

Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;

Galatians 2:21 - "I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly."

Romans 8:3 - For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh,

Romans 11:6 - But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace.

Galatians 5:4 - You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Acts 13:39 - and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

Romans 3:20-30 - because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

Galatians 2:16 - nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.

Galatians 3:21 - Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.

Romans 3:20 - because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

I hope this helps.
Your Old Testament is a modified version of our Tanakh...
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Old 03-05-2018, 12:20 AM
 
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Peter did, because God told him all food was clean.


He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners.
It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds.

Then a voice told him, "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat."

"Surely not, Lord!" Peter replied. "I have never eaten anything impure or unclean."

The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
No, G-d never told Peter that Treif is clean...Peter stated what the vision was about, Gentiles were not to be considered unclean, he said nothing about food...Which for a Jew is what G-d said what was to be used for food...
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Old 03-05-2018, 06:50 AM
 
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No, G-d never told Peter that Treif is clean...Peter stated what the vision was about, Gentiles were not to be considered unclean, he said nothing about food...Which for a Jew is what G-d said what was to be used for food...
So, when God said "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." He meant Peter should kill and eat Gentiles
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:44 AM
 
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This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.

The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.

The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?

This could be a very short thread .. .
Yes - in that even though the laws are not applicable, we still understand what the Lord likes and dislikes.

Those activities you mentioned are still an abomination to God.
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Old 03-05-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Your Old Testament is a modified version of our Tanakh...
Of course you are right. Do you believe the prophets wrote by inspiration of God or their own resources? (Since the OT contains approximately 2500 accurately fulfilled future prophecies, largely about Israel ... and another 300 prophecies about the promised Messiah; plus about 500 end time prophecies).

You can find details about this information under the 'Prophecy" section of UCanKnowtheTruth.com . The Literary section further refers to the record of ancient manuscripts (including the Dead Sea Scrolls), while the archaeological section refers to many artifacts supporting the OT (and Tanakh).
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Old 03-05-2018, 10:25 PM
 
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Of course you are right. Do you believe the prophets wrote by inspiration of God or their own resources? (Since the OT contains approximately 2500 accurately fulfilled future prophecies, largely about Israel ... and another 300 prophecies about the promised Messiah; plus about 500 end time prophecies).

You can find details about this information under the 'Prophecy" section of UCanKnowtheTruth.com. The Literary section further refers to the record of ancient manuscripts (including the Dead Sea Scrolls), while the archaeological section refers to many artifacts supporting the OT (and Tanakh).
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Old 03-06-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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So, when God said "Get up, Peter. Kill and eat." He meant Peter should kill and eat Gentiles
So, you have difficulty understanding metaphor?...Did Peter realize what the vision was regarding or did he not?...Did he mention anything about the vision being about the actual consumption of Treif now being permitted?...No he didn’t...
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Old 03-06-2018, 08:02 PM
 
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This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.

The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.

The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?

This could be a very short thread .. .
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From the OP...

Yes - in that even though the laws are not applicable, we still understand what the Lord likes and dislikes.
Well, the Lord appears to dislike many things ...it's as if He were human and invented by humans. In fact, is there anything that the Lord actually likes of His human creations? There are hundreds of 'don'ts' (dis-approvals) but not a whole lot of 'do's' (approvals) from what I can see. Does the Old Testament God actually like humans and can they do anything 'right' by Him?

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Those activities you mentioned are still an abomination to God.
But, while God feels 'annoyed' (a human trait) when abominations are committed, those actual laws and the penalties for violating those laws are no longer applicable ...right? God is just 'annoyed'. So, why bother mentioning them to begin with if they are no longer in effect?
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