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It is not what goes into the mouth that makes one unclean, (sound familiar)?
Think about it, they were saying that eating with unwashed hands made the food unclean...HaShem already states what was to be used as FOOD and what was not to be used for FOOD...Get it?...
Do you really care whether they do or not? Does it matter to you or are you just using Leviticus as a point of accusation? Are you now judging those you accuse of judging you? There is a big difference between judging and warning. No Christian has the authority to judge. We do, however, have a mandate to warn (Ezekiel 33). Jesus did not judge, but He did warn and His generation didn't like it any more than ours likes to be warned.
There is more to life than living, there is more to death than dying and righteous living involves more than many are willing to admit. There is more going on here than you wish to understand. If a man chooses to follow the Law, then what is that to you?
"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men" - 1 Cor. 6:9
Grocery stores are littered with tabloids that seem to hold every secret of life and happiness - even pretending to tell us how to live happily with God. I submit that the happiness they are proposing is a fleeting thing and is not efficacious for right living before God at all. If one wants to know how to live a Godly life, then Leviticus is the book to read, not cheap tabloid journals.
"'Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD." - Leviticus 19:28
We see from the above another measure of right living our post modern churches do not teach. Such teaching is ignored in favor of happy talk that fills seats and encourages donations. False teaching is always inspired by the desire for financial contributions. Therefore tattoos are acquired and displayed prominently by Christians (and Jews) who ought not do so. What are we to learn from all this? That our fake shepherds do not wish to lead their flock in the ways of the Lord.
"Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy." - Revelation 22:11
The End Times are upon us and judgment is coming speedily. Let the sinner wallow in his sin a little while longer, but leave the righteous and the just alone. Appropriate reward and punishment will be meted out very soon.
There is still a little time to repent. If one wishes to get right with God he or she would be well advised to not delay in making all efforts to do so.
and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Vayikra - Leviticus - Chapter 19
28 You shall not make cuts in your flesh for a person [who died]. You shall not etch a tattoo on yourselves. I am the Lord.
Rashi:
You shall not make] cuts [in your flesh] for a person [who died]: This was the practice of the Amorites: to make cuts in their flesh when a person [related] to them died.
etch a tattoo: Heb. וּכְתֹבֶת קַעֲקַע, an inscription etched (מְחֻקֶּה) and sunken (שָׁקוּע), never to be erased, for one etches it with a needle, and it remains permanently black.
the edge of your beard: [meaning:] The end of the beard and its borders. And these are five: two on each cheek at the top [edge of the cheek] near the head, where [the cheek] is broad and has two “corners” [i.e., extremities, one near the temple and the other at the end of the cheek bone towards the center of the face]-and one below, on the chin, at the point where the two cheeks join together. - [Torath Kohanim 19: 74; Mak. 20b]
Acts 10:11- regardless how you think about it Peter was shown a vision and he ate with the Gentiles. God has never instructed anyone to go through the act of homosexuality, an abomination.
You falsely accused the Elect of wanting to watch homosexuals squirm under condemnation. That is a lie and everyone including you knows it. So why demean yourself for saying such things? Or perhaps you cannot help it? Very telling...
This question is for Christians and particularly for those Christians who STILL use Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 to aim at gay people in an attempt to make them squirm.
The question is an easy one to answer. It's either 'yes' or 'no'. However, if it is 'yes' then a brief explanation will be required.
The question: Do you HONESTLY give a damn about ANY of the commands of Leviticus?
If Jesus eliminated them, then he would have actually been going agaisnt his fathers word and would have been a sinner, and we all know he didnt sin, so neither of the eliminated them.
Mark 7 & Mat 15 was a parable about not washing your hands doesnt make one unclean. Acts 10:28 clarified Acts 10:10-15 that his vision was about not referring to the gentiles as Unclean. Peters vision had nothing to do with unclean food now being clean.
Col 2, in context is telling the new believers in Colossians to not let anyone judge them for actually keeping the commandments, not the other way around. I used to strongly believe Jesus said Christian can eat anything they want, until I reread the entire New Testament 2-3 times in context, with an open mind and no doctrines attacked, and it was then when you realize that mainstream Christianity now flips an takes Matt 15, Acts 10, Col 2, 1 Tim 4, and Romans all out of context so say you can eat unclean foods.
Think about it, they were saying that eating with unwashed hands made the food unclean...HaShem already states what was to be used as FOOD and what was not to be used for FOOD...Get it?...
These verses are used all the time to say Jesus canceled the dietary laws.
Mark 7:17-19 New King James Version (NKJV)
17 When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. 18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?”
Matthew 15:16-20 16 So Jesus said, “Are you also still without understanding? 17 Do you not yet understand that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and is eliminated? 18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.20 These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.”
-The whole issue in both these parallel chapters were the Pharisees were accusing them of eating with unwashed hands.
Matthew 15:2 2 “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.”
Mark 7:5 5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him, “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?”
-Jesus then went on to challenge them as to why do they put aside the commands of God to follow their traditions. So it would make no sense for Jesus to tell them about stop putting aside the commands of God and following the traditions of men and then turn right around and tell them it is now okay to put aside the commands of God and you can now break the dietary laws. The issue was about eating with unwashed hands, not dietary laws debate.
-Jesus no where says in either of those 2 chapters, you now have a free ticket to eat unclean foods now and there was not even any debate on clean vs unclean foods in those chapters.
-Mathew 15 and Mark 7:19 make it very clear that eating with unwashed hands doesn't defile you or make anyone unclean, so those verses CANT be used to say Jesus said we cant eat whatever we want.
But this is exactly what the OP is talking about, if Homosexuality is a sin, which it is according to Lev, why is it okay to go a few chapters before or after and ignore those commands, but judge of about not keeping Lev 18
He was speaking to the Jews and to a Jew "food" is what is on the dietary list...G-d said that these are food for you, and what was unclean was not food...So, anything one reads speaking of food must be viewed in the way in which the Jewish audience of the day considered food...To the Jewish audience non-kosher animals were never considered food, so, the consumption of pork or shrimp, etc., never entered their minds when someone said "food"...Treif was never considered food to begin with...So. again, one has to look at it from a Jewish perspective...
The Old Testament is wonderful, as it came from God. Jesus then brought a new covenant, which also condemns homosexuality. Homosexuality defiles God's image of a man and a woman coming together to be one.
And where is this New Covenant prophesied in your Old Testament?...
Acts 10:28 clarified Acts 10:10-15 that his vision was about not referring to the gentiles as Unclean. Peters vision had nothing to do with unclean food now being clean.
I believe it was a two-pronged approach of (1) The Gentiles are no longer considered unclean as Peter was about to share the Gospel with them (Cornelius the centurion and his household) and (2) the Gentiles' food was now cleansed to eat. We now no longer have dietary laws like under the OT. As to homosexuality, it's still an abomination.
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