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Old 05-30-2018, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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In order to believe in eternal damnation, annihilation or that of Universal Reconciliation would mean that I would have to believe in some kind of separation from that which brought everything (ALL THINGS) into existence, Which I do not!
What do you believe happens to people when they die?

If they are not saved, separated, annihilated (permanent 'sleep'), or universally saved, then what other possible outcomes are there?
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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This question was asked of Jesus.

Luke 13
[22] And he [Jesus] went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
[23] Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
[24] Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
[25] When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
[26] Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
[27] But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
[28] There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
[29] And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.


Yes--FEW Jesus said will find the entrance-- There is more than one Jesus being taught out of those religions. 99% of those religions have failed Jesus and all who listen to them.
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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More "slaves" to add to the list Cyber!

Pres. Abraham Lincoln

Robert Torango, writer, pastor, evangelist

Mercy Aiken, missionary

Jonathan Mitchell, Bible translator

Charles M. Schultz, cartoonist (famous for Peanuts and Charlie Brown)

Norman Grubbs, author

Ivan A. Rogers, pastor, author, seminary President

Jurgen Moltmann, theologian, professor, author

Cyber, this will have zero impact on where you dwell in La La Land. But do all you can do to refrain from making asinine statements.
Another gleaming example of the love crowd inability to refute the truth of Scriptures only to resort to personal insults.
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Old 05-30-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: New England
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Yes--FEW Jesus said will find the entrance-- There is more than one Jesus being taught out of those religions. 99% of those religions have failed Jesus and all who listen to them.
Thankfully Jesus Christ never fails anyone no matter what religion or denomination tickles your fancy.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:04 PM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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Another gleaming example of the love crowd inability to refute the truth of Scriptures only to resort to personal insults.
Isn't that the truth. That is how I know UR is the biggest lie on the face of the earth. There is no change in those who hold to this false teaching. They behave worst then the world would think of especially in treating another human being.

Good to see you, twin !
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I guess your issues with Jesus and what He warned, you will see in the afterlife how asinine they are, Rose2Luv
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Isn't that the truth. That is how I know UR is the biggest lie on the face of the earth. There is no change in those who hold to this false teaching. They behave worst then the world would think of especially in treating another human being.

Good to see you, twin !
I suppose you will eventually see how asinine (i.e., stupid or foolish) your perceptions were, so I wouldn't go passing out any flowers if I were you.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What do you believe happens to people when they die?

If they are not saved, separated, annihilated (permanent 'sleep'), or universally saved, then what other possible outcomes are there?
Mr. Jarber, nothing truly ever dies, it merely transforms.
But it may take a few days, try not to put a time frame on it.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:22 PM
 
Location: On a road heaven bound !
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I suppose you will eventually see how asinine (i.e., stupid or foolish) your perceptions were, so I wouldn't go passing out any flowers if I were you.
LOL! Willlll see!
But I do hope you will turn your heart to Jesus and believe He is not lying especially in what He warn you and many here, and possibly you won't hear His very words, "I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity"

Luke 13
[22] And he [Jesus] went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
[23] Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
[24] Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
[25] When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
[26] Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
[27] But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
[28] There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
[29] And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.[/quote]
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:28 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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LOL! Willlll see!
But I do hope you will turn your heart to Jesus and believe He is not lying especially in what He warn you and many here, and possibly you won't hear His very words, "I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity"

Luke 13
[22] And he [Jesus] went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem.
[23] Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
[24] Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
[25] When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
[26] Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
[27] But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
[28] There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
[29] And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
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I've found that when a scripture pops into my head the very first thing I need to do is see how it applies to me. If scripture is inspired and designed for reproof than it's your responsibility to use it to aid yourself.
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Old 05-30-2018, 03:31 PM
 
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LOL, well, I guess one day you will be able to argue that issue with God now won't you. And you're going to be dreadfully disappointed when He reveals the truth to you. And you do know what Jesus spoke to those who denied Him
Better reconsider your stand now in this life, then later in the after life!
Believing that God IS love as Jesus taught and demonstrated is NOT denying Jesus. NOT believing that God is so EVIL that He would torture for eternity or annihilate anyone just for NOT accepting the impossible and inconsistent "precepts and doctrines of men," does NOT make someone a "worker of iniquity." Rejecting those who claim to speak for God through THEIR interpretations of words "written in ink" when they contradict what God has "written in our hearts" in agape love does NOT make someone a "worker of iniquity." I prefer to follow the guidance of the promised Comforter sent in Christ's name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts."

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