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Old 01-25-2022, 11:15 AM
 
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If you were NOT in one or more of the states of mind associated with God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness as revealed by Jesus on the Cross, you were NOT receiving any guidance from the Holy Spirit. I would definitely be concerned about what kind of Spirit you were getting guidance from.
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The fact that God's wrath and justice against my sins has been satisfied in the Cross in no way means that I am not in "a state of mind associated with God's Holy Spirit of agape love."
It is easy to check. Were you in any of these states of mind when you received your guidance??

Philippians 2:5-30 King James Version
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

As an aid in doing that, here are the characteristic states of mind of God's true nature (Holy Spirit):

The Holy Spirit IS the True Nature of God revealed, described, and demonstrated unambiguously by Jesus. He IS agape love, kindness, mercy, compassion, gentleness, unconditional acceptance, empathy, sympathy, tolerance, long-suffering, decency, friendliness, peacefulness, joyfulness, understanding, care, concern, solicitude, solicitousness, sensitivity, tender-heartedness, soft-heartedness, warm-heartedness, warmth, love, brotherly love, tenderness, gentleness, mercifulness, leniency, lenience, consideration, kindness, humanity, humaneness, kind-heartedness, charity, benevolence, and He is non-judgmental.
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Old 01-26-2022, 01:22 AM
 
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Jesus will be the judge of all the earth according to holy scripture.

So, there has to be a certain element of judgment in His nature and character.
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:20 PM
 
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Jesus will be the judge of all the earth according to holy scripture.
So, there has to be a certain element of judgment in His nature and character.
The judgment will not be an act of His Will, but of His character (agape love). If you have a character that is NOT at least harmoniously compatible (resonant) with His, you will need to be "re-tuned" (refine out the dross or the "off-key" aspects of your character). That would be a judgment of sorts, but not a Willful one.
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:27 PM
 
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The judgment will not be an act of His Will, but of His character (agape love). If you have a character that is NOT at least harmoniously compatible (resonant) with His, you will need to be "re-tuned" (refine out the dross or the "off-key" aspects of your character). That would be a judgment of sorts, but not a Willful one.
The final judgement on Earth (humble sheep/haughty goats) as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37 is the judgement of King Jesus.
God gives that judgement to His Son at John 5:22.
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:31 PM
 
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Jesus will be the judge of all the earth according to holy scripture.
So, there has to be a certain element of judgment in His nature and character.
I think you can say the ^ above ^ again because of Jesus ' sword-like judgement words ' found at Isaiah 11:3-4.
Yes, Jesus as both King and Judge of all the Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time found at Matthew 25:31-33,37
before Jesus takes the action found at Revelation 19:14-15.
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Old 01-26-2022, 01:29 PM
 
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The final judgement on Earth (humble sheep/haughty goats) as found at Matthew 25:31-33,37 is the judgement of King Jesus.
God gives that judgement to His Son at John 5:22.
Only our ignorant, primitive, barbaric, and judgmental ancestors would ever interpret what Jesus taught and demonstrated as judgmental. Get out of your OT primitive mindset and use the "mind of Christ" to read and interpret what our ancestors should have said instead of what they did say in their ignorance of God.
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Old 01-26-2022, 02:03 PM
 
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Only our ignorant, primitive, barbaric, and judgmental ancestors would ever interpret what Jesus taught and demonstrated as judgmental. Get out of your OT primitive mindset and use the "mind of Christ" to read and interpret what our ancestors should have said instead of what they did say in their ignorance of God.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:24 PM
 
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The judgment of the lake of fire, for those who believe in it, is a deterrent concerning the committing of sins that might place a person in the lake of fire.

For those who don't believe in it, they have still been warned and will have no excuse on that day and will be cast into the lake of fire (hell) whether they believe in it or not. It will very likely be a rude awakening for them; but they have been warned; yet chose to believe in the teachings of heretics in order that they might be allowed to commit those sins without any fear of punishment.

But their lack of fear is in all reality foolishness.

Because if they would have had fear, it would have been their wisdom (Job 28:28);

And therefore because they lacked fear, they had the opposite of wisdom.
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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The judgment of the lake of fire, for those who believe in it, is a deterrent concerning the committing of sins that might place a person in the lake of fire.

For those who don't believe in it, they have still been warned and will have no excuse on that day and will be cast into the lake of fire (hell) whether they believe in it or not. It will very likely be a rude awakening for them; but they have been warned; yet chose to believe in the teachings of heretics in order that they might be allowed to commit those sins without any fear of punishment.

But their lack of fear is in all reality foolishness.

Because if they would have had fear, it would have been their wisdom (Job 28:28);

And therefore because they lacked fear, they had the opposite of wisdom.
The lake of fire is a deterrent concerning being or becoming an inconsiderate a**hole that will place a person in the lake of fire to have the dross removed from their character. God is NOT counting our sins against us so we shouldn't be either. But we definitely should be trying to love God and each other every day and repent when we fail so we do NOT become an inconsiderate a**hole.
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:20 PM
 
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The condition for not having your sins imputed to you is faith in Jesus Christ.
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