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Old 04-18-2010, 11:44 AM
 
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There is only two reactions to the truth of the Trinity:
  1. believe it because he is of God...that is part of the fruit of the Spirit
  2. does not believe it because it's foolishness
1 Corinthians 2:14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Trinity is what seperates the True Christian Church from the false.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
None of those verses have anything to do with the Triune nature of God...those are regarding the Gospel and Faith...In what way is one saved?...Through Faith in Jesus Christ...Not Faith in the Doctrine of the Trinity...
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Not being able to understand something is a sign it isn't quite right.... especially when the only explanation is that it is not understandable...
I understand it...
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Old 04-18-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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Not being able to understand something is a sign it isn't quite right.... especially when the only explanation is that it is not understandable...
i understand it...
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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i understand it...
Explain, if you will, because I haven't heard anything coherent except that I, a human, cannot understand it. or I am blind, etc.
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:18 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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It's called the "Trinity" and they are three separate beings who make up the Godhead. Its' really not that hard to understand. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Of course, we won't fully understand how it works until we die.


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Originally Posted by twin.spin View Post
There is only two reactions to the truth of the Trinity:
  1. believe it because he is of God...that is part of the fruit of the Spirit
  2. does not believe it because it's foolishness
1 Corinthians 2:14
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

The Trinity is what seperates the True Christian Church from the false.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
AMEN!
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Old 04-18-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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Can someone please, please try and legitimately explain how your jesus can also be his own father? This whole "father, son and holy spirit" as one being Moderator cut: Orphaned
Jesus is not the Father.

When Jesus was on earth He taught His disciples to pray: "Our Father which art in heaven."

Just as Abraham is father of the faithful (not literally but figuratively)
and just as Paul begot the believers through the gospel thus making him their father, not literally but figuratively, thus Jesus is the father of those of faith too, not literally but figuratively.

But literally, the Father was in heaven while Jesus was on the earth.

The Father, while He remained in heaven, sent His Son into the world to save sinners.

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Old 04-18-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Can someone please, please try and legitimately explain how your jesus can also be his own father? This whole "father, son and holy spirit" as one being Moderator cut: Orphaned
God is three in Persons and one in essence. When the essence of God is being talked about God is said to be one. When the Persons of the Godhead are being talked about God is said to be three. Each member of the trinity is Himself God. All three together are God. One God in three Persons. 1+1+1=1

Here are some threads I did on the members of the Trinity.

The Purality and Oneness of the one true God

The Holy Spirit is a Person of the Trinity, Distinct From the Father and the Son

Jesus Christ is Eternal God

And here is a link you should look at.

The Trinity

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Old 04-18-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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God is three in Persons and one in essence. When the essence of God is being talked about God is said to be one. When the Persons of the Godhead are being talked about God is said to be three. Each member of the trinity is Himself God. All three together are God. One God in three Persons. 1+1+1=1

Here are some threads I did on the members of the Trinity.

www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/770144-purality-oneness-one-true-god.html

www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/830656-holy-spirit-person-trinity-distinct-father.html

www.city-data.com/forum/christianity/814363-jesus-christ-eternal-god.html

And here is a link you should look at.

The Trinity
That makes no sense, especially because you are changing the method universally agreed upon for such calculations. In no other circumstance in the world would 1+1+1=1.

Reminds me of this:

YouTube - Abbott And Costello 13 X 7 is 28
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:27 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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That makes no sense, especially because you are changing the method universally agreed upon for such calculations. In no other circumstance in the world would 1+1+1=1.

Reminds me of this:

YouTube - Abbott And Costello 13 X 7 is 28
It's not to be expected that it would make sense to someone who does not believe that Jesus Christ is God, who doesn't believe in the virgin birth, who does not believe in Heaven or hell, who does not believe in Satan, demons or angels in general as real beings, who doesn't believe that the Bible is the word of God.

When applied to the triune nature of God, 1+1+1=1.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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It's not to be expected that it would make sense to someone who does not believe that Jesus Christ is God, who doesn't believe in the virgin birth, who does not believe in Heaven or hell, who does not believe in Satan, demons or angels in general as real beings, who doesn't believe that the Bible is the word of God.

When applied to the triune nature of God, 1+1+1=1.
Any examples on other triune natures that we can compare for a more full understanding?
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