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I agree with the reasons Charlotte is attracting more Blacks overall these days. What I find somewhat interesting is that when it comes to the factors influencing Black migration, Charlotte is more akin to Atlanta while the Triangle is similar to DC. While both cities have a large white-collar employment base, that's even more true for the Triangle which has a heavier concentration of STEM and government jobs, so it tends to attract more college-educated professionals of all races. The Triangle lacks the visibility and more central location of Charlotte which affects its Black domestic migration rate to an extent, but otherwise it is a solid performer.
That's true, but the 2018 ACS statistics were only released a few short months ago and I haven't seen any rankings related to this particular subject yet, so for the most part the 2017 numbers are what we have to go by in most cases. Furthermore, I doubt there's been any significant changes to the numbers in the course of one year, or even up until today. Charlotte has probably closed the Black median household income gap a little bit but something monumental and unprecedented would have had to happen for it to overtake Raleigh in the span of 2-3 years.
I just think that when it comes to places with sizable Black populations where Blacks are doing relatively well but don't have the visibility or even hype that other places have, the Triangle is the posterboy. Overall it's a pretty impressive place and even somewhat unique for the South. My overall preference is for Charlotte as I consider it my second home and no doubt its recent rise is also impressive, but I also don't mind giving credit where it is due when it comes to other places.
Durham is sneaky cool that has a lot of Black history with a strong middle to upper middle class of Black folk (A minority majority city). It's no Atlanta or DC for sure. Sometimes I wonder, how in the hell did Duke Univ end up smack dab in the middle of this place? Even with pompous Duke's presence, it can't overcome the cool of Durham.
Is this the longest running thread in city data history?
Talking about the "Black" Mecca...the party just got started...you know how we roll. I'll take another double with dem hot wings and whatever dat shawtee at the end of bar is having...on me.
Talking about the "Black" Mecca...the party just got started...you know how we roll. I'll take another double with dem hot wings and whatever dat shawtee at the end of bar is having...on me.
And a bit of clarification on that word "shawtee"...which morphed from the word "short-ay" that originated in the DC metro per my colloquial historical note. Seems to me our ATL-brethren (south in general) totally used our down-south vernacular to contort that slang term into some version of "shaw-tee". Historically, back to the old school 80s at one famous HBCU in the Carolinas, it was once bellowed across da yard as "short-ayyyy". To whom I once quizzed my DC suite-mate peer...where did the term come from/originate because primarily everyone from the DC metro used the word. Now it was late in the dorm AM-ish if you will, several feel goods-in, that one star-studded PG County, MD brotha pontificated to me that it was in fact a reference to gender, meaning, women are typically shorter than men...therefore the term evolved into "short-ayyy" to open dialogue with a female (to warrant their attention), a very primitive way indeed....then it become common to reference other folk regardless of gender.
Your late post-Feb Black history maybe fact...that's my story and sticking to it.
Both are impressive, but Charlotte outshines the Triangle because the culture is more diverse. I would choose Charlotte as well.
Neither is head-and-shoulders more culturally diverse than the other, but in terms of Black culture specifically, the Triangle has had a bit more depth historically with the arts and its HBCUs whereas Charlotte has done a great job with adding more Black cultural amenities more recently.
Durham is sneaky cool that has a lot of Black history with a strong middle to upper middle class of Black folk (A minority majority city). It's no Atlanta or DC for sure. Sometimes I wonder, how in the hell did Duke Univ end up smack dab in the middle of this place? Even with pompous Duke's presence, it can't overcome the cool of Durham.
I completely agree and think Durham is completely underrated in that regard. The presence of Duke has resulted in a more intense sort of town-and-gown relationship historically, but that old tobacco wealth has given the city a source of prosperity it probably wouldn't have otherwise had.
I think it is one of those "there aren't as many as there should be, but there are more than we think" type of things. Some of this may be due to places that have this are overlooked due to size and/or a perception in terms of not thinking it is available. For instance, the Detroit example I just gave is actually in this predominantly black and middle class area of the city: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4324...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
And a bit of clarification on that word "shawtee"...which morphed from the word "short-ay" that originated in the DC metro per my colloquial historical note. Seems to me our ATL-brethren (south in general) totally used our down-south vernacular to contort that slang term into some version of "shaw-tee". Historically, back to the old school 80s at one famous HBCU in the Carolinas, it was once bellowed across da yard as "short-ayyyy". To whom I once quizzed my DC suite-mate peer...where did the term come from/originate because primarily everyone from the DC metro used the word. Now it was late in the dorm AM-ish if you will, several feel goods-in, that one star-studded PG County, MD brotha pontificated to me that it was in fact a reference to gender, meaning, women are typically shorter than men...therefore the term evolved into "short-ayyy" to open dialogue with a female (to warrant their attention), a very primitive way indeed....then it become common to reference other folk regardless of gender.
Your late post-Feb Black history maybe fact...that's my story and sticking to it.
One for you on local sayings; Cuzz is widely used here in Mississippi.
And a bit of clarification on that word "shawtee"...which morphed from the word "short-ay" that originated in the DC metro per my colloquial historical note. Seems to me our ATL-brethren (south in general) totally used our down-south vernacular to contort that slang term into some version of "shaw-tee". Historically, back to the old school 80s at one famous HBCU in the Carolinas, it was once bellowed across da yard as "short-ayyyy". To whom I once quizzed my DC suite-mate peer...where did the term come from/originate because primarily everyone from the DC metro used the word. Now it was late in the dorm AM-ish if you will, several feel goods-in, that one star-studded PG County, MD brotha pontificated to me that it was in fact a reference to gender, meaning, women are typically shorter than men...therefore the term evolved into "short-ayyy" to open dialogue with a female (to warrant their attention), a very primitive way indeed....then it become common to reference other folk regardless of gender.
Your late post-Feb Black history maybe fact...that's my story and sticking to it.
You had it right the first time. I never heard anyone say "shaw-tee" west of the Mississippi. Certainly isn't big at all in Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas. At least from my observations. Everytime I use to hear shaw-tee back in the day, I instantly thought Atlanta.
True. I think in the South, charter schools are a more popular alternative to public schools than private schools are given the history of many of them as segregation academies that were founded in the wake of mandated desegregation in public schools by the federal government.
In Boston the charge child are much more black than city schools. In 2000 BPS was 49.9% black, today it’s 31% although the city is only 1.3% less black than in 200. The difference-besides am increased Latino population- is far far more charter schools. Where black students make up 44% of the student population and in many schools 80%+. BPS is now 14.5% white but charter schools are just under 8% white. Even still, nearly 25% of all black children in Boston are not in Boston’s public schools. Many are bussed into suburbs via the METCO program and about 1 in 12 black children are in private schools. There are so many options and such small school districts in New England. I often find more black middle class in Boston than surrounding towns, this is in part due to schools and in part due to more black representation and historical in Boston than in suburbs.
Boston along with Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Minneapolis are northern cities that are not losing black people and are places where I think blacks feel somewhat reliant on the city for culture and social networks. People are moving Nd into the suburbs yes but it’s not really yet taking away from the city. We also see this is Kansas City, Las Vegas and Denver. although in some of these places there simply isn’t enough black population for truly economically distinct black neighborhoods. Blacks of all classes are more or less all in very close proximity and share neighborhoods.
In contrast, LA NYC DC ATL Chicago- tier 1 destinations/cities for black people- the black population has had so much success and influence that folks feel empowered and comfortable fully decamping form the city add individuals and as a community.
In Boston the charge child are much more black than city schools. In 2000 BPS was 49.9% black, today it’s 31% although the city is only 1.3% less black than in 200. The difference-besides am increased Latino population- is far far more charter schools. Where black students make up 44% of the student population and in many schools 80%+. BPS is now 14.5% white but charter schools are just under 8% white. Even still, nearly 25% of all black children in Boston are not in Boston’s public schools. Many are bussed into suburbs via the METCO program and about 1 in 12 black children are in private schools. There are so many options and such small school districts in New England. I often find more black middle class in Boston than surrounding towns, this is in part due to schools and in part due to more black representation and historical in Boston than in suburbs.
Boston along with Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Minneapolis are northern cities that are not losing black people and are places where I think blacks feel somewhat reliant on the city for culture and social networks. People are moving Nd into the suburbs yes but it’s not really yet taking away from the city. We also see this is Kansas City, Las Vegas and Denver. although in some of these places there simply isn’t enough black population for truly economically distinct black neighborhoods. Blacks of all classes are more or less all in very close proximity and share neighborhoods.
In contrast, LA NYC DC ATL Chicago- tier 1 destinations/cities for black people- the black population has had so much success and influence that folks feel empowered and comfortable fully decamping form the city add individuals and as a community.
I think a lot of this has to do with the fact that in those areas, black people didn't necessarily migrate directly to the city center, but may have migrated directly to secondary city centers within those areas. Even in Boston, some black people went directly to Cambridge, Lynn, Medford and a few other first ring cities, as some have had visible black communities themselves for a long time. So, what sometimes happens is that people may move from the city center to a secondary or satellite city in the same area or to a nearby area.
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