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New Orleans should consider having a red light district again.
The whole city is kind of a red light district.
Have you been to New Orleans? The strip clubs and the like are pretty aggressive about flaunting their "merchandise". The city is probably closest in the U.S. to a European-style red light district.
In the early 20th Century, Storyville was probably the most famous red light district in the US until it was closed at the insistence of the Army and Navy at the start of the US entry into World War I. The commanding brass said it was a "bad influence" on soldiers or sailors stationed nearby or shipping out of New Orleans. It was torn down in the 1930s and now is occupied by the Iberville housing projects.
Have you been to New Orleans? The strip clubs and the like are pretty aggressive about flaunting their "merchandise". The city is probably closest in the U.S. to a European-style red light district.
No no no no no no no no no no no the city is not a red light district. Go there and think that and you will end up in the drunk tank like the other Bourbon idiots. The only place strippers are aggressive like that is on Bourbon St, for you tourists.
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In the early 20th Century, Storyville was probably the most famous red light district in the US until it was closed at the insistence of the Army and Navy at the start of the US entry into World War I. The commanding brass said it was a "bad influence" on soldiers or sailors stationed nearby or shipping out of New Orleans. It was torn down in the 1930s and now is occupied by the Iberville housing projects.
The Iberville has mostly been demolished in place for mixed-income housing.
No no no no no no no no no no no the city is not a red light district. Go there and think that and you will end up in the drunk tank like the other Bourbon idiots. The only place strippers are aggressive like that is on Bourbon St, for you tourists.
It's a joke, I'm not a tourist, and no, Bourbon Street is not the only place in NO with strip clubs.
Most strip clubs in NO aren't around Bourbon Street. Those are only for the tourists.
And NO has lots of swingers clubs and types of places that aren't as common in other U.S. cities. This is part of the local DNA, and isn't just for visiting tourists.
It's not even a sex thing; NO is just more laid back than most cities, and doesn't really care about being uptight (which, in the South, is a rare thing).
It's a joke, I'm not a tourist, and no, Bourbon Street is not the only place in NO with strip clubs.
Most strip clubs in NO aren't around Bourbon Street. Those are only for the tourists.
And NO has lots of swingers clubs and types of places that aren't as common in other U.S. cities. This is part of the local DNA, and isn't just for visiting tourists.
It's not even a sex thing; NO is just more laid back than most cities, and doesn't really care about being uptight (which, in the South, is a rare thing).
Sorry. I know all of this, just thought you were making it out to be something it's not.
I agree that SF offers more diverse cultural and recreational amenities and obviously proximity to high paying jobs. I do not agree about weather, though. SF does not have very good weather, though the East Bay and Peninsula are much better.
Compared to New Orleans, which is a hot and humid mess, the Bay Area's Mediterranean climate is sublime-let's not kid ourselves.
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In short, SF, to me, is not as good of a "deal" as NYC and LA. With NYC, you pay a lot, but you live in arguable the greatest city on earth.
Oh so you know New Orleans can't really compare to San Francisco so you rush to inject New York into the discussion. LOL
By the way, as I've stated time and time again, New York's greatness is almost exclusively due to Manhattan--the rest of the city is largely subpar from a quality of life standpoint.
San Francisco and it's surroundings are really much nicer on average, far more livable and generally more pleasant. Quite frankly.
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With LA, you pay a bit less
Yeah, once again trying to inject another city into the thread because NOLA can't really compare to SF---LA is less expensive, that's correct.
Compared to New Orleans, which is a hot and humid mess, the Bay Area's Mediterranean climate is sublime-let's not kid ourselves.
Oh so you know New Orleans can't really compare to San Francisco so you rush to inject New York into the discussion. LOL
By the way, as I've stated time and time again, New York's greatness is almost exclusively due to Manhattan--the rest of the city is largely subpar from a quality of life standpoint.
San Francisco and it's surroundings are really much nicer on average, far more livable and generally more pleasant. Quite frankly.
Yeah, once again trying to inject another city into the thread because NOLA can't really compare to SF---LA is less expensive, that's correct.
Please ponder on that.
Well you really can't.
There really was no need to defend SF here.
And yes, New Orleans is comparable to San Francisco.
Well since you care so much about European visitors I figured we might as well talk about which of the two cities far more Europeans actually go to.
Why do you suppose San Francisco receives far more European visitors than New Orleans? Hmmm?
You claimed that SF was more appealing to Europeans because it was a busier air hub.
That's an absurd statement, because airports don't build hubs based on tourists. Atlanta Hartsfield has the busiest hub in the world.; so you would claim that Atlanta is the most appealing destination on earth for tourists?
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Compared to New Orleans, which is a hot and humid mess, the Bay Area's Mediterranean climate is sublime-let's not kid ourselves.
We're talking SF, not the Bay Area. SF weather sucks, and the prime neighborhoods are generally cool, and foggy year-round. New Orleans is warm maybe half the year; SF is not warm 100% of the year.
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Oh so you know New Orleans can't really compare to San Francisco so you rush to inject New York into the discussion. LOL
No, I used NYC as an example to why SF is a worse choice than NO. The relative advantages of SF compared to NO are all destroyed by NYC, so if you wanted such things (density, transit, culture, cosmopolitan feel) within an American context, you would just go to NYC, not a city that has like 10% of NYC. In contrast, NO is unique within the US.
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By the way, as I've stated time and time again, New York's greatness is almost exclusively due to Manhattan--the rest of the city is largely subpar from a quality of life standpoint.
This is quite obviously wrong. NYC's greatness is largely based on things that presently have little to do with Manhattan.
In terms of urbanity and transit, the Outer Boroughs of NYC absolutely destroy SF, or any other city in the U.S. And most of the culture and creativity in NYC has been outside of Manhattan for 20 years now. Same goes for almost all of the diversity and ethnic neighborhoods.
For the typical young, educated, talented person looking for an urban environment, Brooklyn is like 10 times more appealing than SF. For example, Park Slope > any neighborhood in SF; bar none.
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San Francisco and it's surroundings are really much nicer on average, far more livable and generally more pleasant. Quite frankly.
I agree with this. SF does have much nicer places outside of SF. But that's kind of a silly argument in favor of SF. One could say the same thing about Sacramento, Salinas or Santa Rosa; doesn't mean these are world class cities.
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Yeah, once again trying to inject another city into the thread because NOLA can't really compare to SF---LA is less expensive, that's correct.
And LA has much more than SF if you're looking for a big city experience or visiting as a tourist, all for less money. No one visits NO for the purpose of big city amenities, but that is SF's claim to fame, and yet NYC and LA pretty much destroy SF on those characteristics.
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