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San Francisco has a beautiful natural setting, but so does most of Northern California. You don't need to live anywhere near SF to get the same natural amenities.
And no one (except you, I guess) would argue that SF has a top-tier urban downtown experience. There is not one major city in Western Europe that doesn't destroy SF urbanity. NYC absolutely throttles the urbanity in SF.
Hell, suburbs of NYC in Northern NJ (Hudson/Essex/southern Bergen counties) are arguably more urban. If you go into NYC itself, Brooklyn absolutely kills SF. All the Outer Boroughs, excepting Staten Island, have more to offer for lovers of urbanity.
Blah Blah Blah.
Neither New York nor any other city in North America rivals San Francisco as far as having a top tier, world class urban/downtown environment AND an exceptionally beautiful natural setting.
If you read, he said nothing like that. In fact, it was the opposite.
No, he said exactly that.
He said we should judge the relative attractiveness of a city to foreign visitors by the # of foreign flights.
Venice has one flight from the U.S. and none from Asia, while Detroit has many flights from Europe and Asia. Therefore Detroit is an important tourist city, and Venice isn't, correct?
Neither New York nor any other city in North America rivals San Francisco as far as having a top tier, world class urban/downtown environment AND an exceptionally beautiful natural setting.
And yawns at the outer boroughs--OUTER is right.
All wrong. NYC destroys SF in urban feel.
SF is beautiful setting, but inferior urban feel. People move there because of tech, and because the West Coast doesn't have city options. But the really desirable areas in the Bay Area are outside San Francisco. The real money is 40 miles from SF.
He said we should judge the relative attractiveness of a city to foreign visitors by the # of foreign flights.
Venice has one flight from the U.S. and none from Asia, while Detroit has many flights from Europe and Asia. Therefore Detroit is an important tourist city, and Venice isn't, correct?
Then how does that make Atlanta #1? Atlanta does lack on foreign carriers as he said while Sf flourishes with them.
But I agree. You can't use that standard for every city.
@Chilly Gentilly. Kudos for not engaging him. Lol. First he completely dismissed the concrete information you gave him, then started randomly boosting Atlanta, and then called you delusional just because you showed him proof he was wrong. SMH! Hilarious.
Hahahahaha....you aren't keeping up, let me slow down for ya.
New York is larger sure(GO NEW YORK, IT's YOUR BIRTHDAY), I'm saying that as far as an urban destination, Like New York(well really just Manhattan), SF also delivers top tier amenities in a world class urban environment, even if it's smaller it's still top tier and still world class and that is 100% TRUE.
But that's not all. San Francisco, unlike New York, has an exquisite and breathtaking natural setting that people actually mention when describing when they say what they like about it. A Mediterranean climate and elevation and a far greater diversity of plant life and flora and fauna makes SF quite unique in that it marries both elements better than anywhere else I know of in North America.
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SF is beautiful setting, but inferior urban feel. People move there because of tech, and because the West Coast doesn't have city options. But the really desirable areas in the Bay Area are outside San Francisco. The real money is 40 miles from SF.
Ironically, this isn't SFs problem as much as it is Brooklyn's problem. Brooklyn has no fortune 500 companies to speak of, actually has more residents commuting out than working in, has a deplorably lackluster downtown compared to SF and is a secondary satellite refugee camp for people who can't afford Manhattan. You sit in a shadow and SF does NOT. That is the difference.
Overseas visitors, 2012
San Francisco 3,393,000
Atlanta 655,000
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