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View Poll Results: New Orleans vs San Francisco
San Francisco 262 57.71%
New Orleans 192 42.29%
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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A city so flawed that over 2.5 million people(NEARLY DOUBLE NOLA'S CURRENT METRO POP.) have moved to the general area in the past 2 decades and continue to move here by the hundred of thousands every year. Every city has flaws. None are perfect and that certainly hold true for NOLA and you can continue saying that the crime is only segregated to certain neighborhoods, but this can be said by nearly every major city in this country. NOLA is still top 3 for Crime in not only municipal, but metro as well. That is a fact and is supported by NUMBERS. Do the google search if you want.

NOLA is very nasty and gritty outside of the central city. You're delusional if you think otherwise. You can continue to pretend as if the crime and poverty and grit and human misery don't exist in NOLA, but it does and it's VERY widespread. The higher a city is in crime, the more is spillovers into nice neighborhoods.
Lol. Ok man.

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Old 11-28-2013, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Louisiana to Houston to Denver to NOVA
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A city so flawed that over 2.5 million people(NEARLY DOUBLE NOLA'S CURRENT METRO POP.) have moved to the general area in the past 2 decades and continue to move here by the hundred of thousands every year. Every city has flaws. None are perfect and that certainly hold true for NOLA and you can continue saying that the crime is only segregated to certain neighborhoods, but this can be said by nearly every major city in this country. NOLA is still top 3 for Crime in not only municipal, but metro as well. That is a fact and is supported by NUMBERS. Do the google search if you want.

NOLA is very nasty and gritty outside of the central city. You're delusional if you think otherwise. You can continue to pretend as if the crime and poverty and grit and human misery don't exist in NOLA, but it does and it's VERY widespread. The higher a city is in crime, the more is spillovers into nice neighborhoods.
New Orleans crime is lower than the national average. You're thinking about the murder rate.
Nasty outside of the central city?

Ok, lets see the disgusting city:

http://goo.gl/maps/V2pZD

http://goo.gl/maps/Td4gO

http://goo.gl/maps/hKDzz

http://goo.gl/maps/5LXnM

http://goo.gl/maps/5piAz

http://goo.gl/maps/8xVGE

http://goo.gl/maps/eDgSG

http://goo.gl/maps/jT94o

http://goo.gl/maps/BHUru

http://goo.gl/maps/mEFAc

Terrible surroundings huh?
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Midtown Atlanta...starting to regret it
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@Chilly Gentilly. Kudos for not engaging him. Lol. First he completely dismissed the concrete information you gave him, then started randomly boosting Atlanta, and then called you delusional just because you showed him proof he was wrong. SMH! Hilarious.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:35 PM
 
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NOLA is very nasty and gritty outside of the central city. You're delusional if you think otherwise. You can continue to pretend as if the crime and poverty and grit and human misery don't exist in NOLA, but it does and it's VERY widespread. The higher a city is in crime, the more is spillovers into nice neighborhoods.
No offense, but NO is about 10 times the city feel of Atlanta. Atlanta (the city) feels more suburban than the suburbs of older cities. Some place like Long Island or New Jersey makes core Atlanta neighborhoods look like the country.

The most urban neighborhood in Atlanta looks like the suburbs of NO, IMO.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:41 PM
 
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According to Trulia, the median sale price for a 4-bedroom house in the city of Oakland from Aug-Nov 2013 is $765,000-Oakland, the city almost universally lambasted by media outlets for crime, drugs, ebonics, anarchists, occupy etc and the verbal whipping boy of inland racists/rednecks/neocons, costs $765,000 for the average 4-bd house. Ironically for San Jose it's 'only' $720,000 That's because Oakland's expensive areas really sway the stats up. You can find 4-bd homes in hood areas in the 400-500K range but that isn't for everyone.

Actually the typical 4-bd house is really quite expensive anywhere in the immediate Oakland Area:
Median Sale Price, 4-bd house:
Piedmont $1,407,500
Berkeley $1,177,500
Kensington $1,095,000
Alameda $854,000
Albany $785,000
Oakland $765,000
San Leandro $635,000
This is all BS, BTW.

I thought it sounded crazy, because I know the East Bay, and yeah, Montclair just made this all up.

According to Trulia, the median sales price for the entire Alameda county is around $500,000. Oakland is even lower than the Alameda county average.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:44 PM
 
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No it's not an absurd statement. The true gauge of evaluating the draw of European visitors is the number of foreign airlines serving the airport, not the destinations the home hub carrier serves.
It is? Ok, I guess. Very strange criteria.

So you agree that Atlanta is the #1 city in the world for tourism, I guess. And Detroit, Dallas and Houston are big tourist centers, correct?

And Venice, Italy has a tiny airport and only one non-European carrier, so I guess Venice isn't a tourist city? And Florence has none, so even less of a tourist city than Detroit. Thanks for clearing that one up!, I guess?
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:47 PM
 
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San Francisco is really the only city in North America that combines the 2. Beautiful Natural Setting AND a premier, top tier urban downtown experience.
San Francisco has a beautiful natural setting, but so does most of Northern California. You don't need to live anywhere near SF to get the same natural amenities.

And no one (except you, I guess) would argue that SF has a top-tier urban downtown experience. There is not one major city in Western Europe that doesn't destroy SF urbanity. NYC absolutely throttles the urbanity in SF.

Hell, suburbs of NYC in Northern NJ (Hudson/Essex/southern Bergen counties) are arguably more urban. If you go into NYC itself, Brooklyn absolutely kills SF. All the Outer Boroughs, excepting Staten Island, have more to offer for lovers of urbanity.

Anyone who has been to Park Slope, or Williamsburg, or Brooklyn Heights, and then goes to Noe Valley, or Marina, Nob Hill, will absolutely burst out laughing if they heard you trying to compare the two (or, even crazier, claim that SF neighborhoods were better). You walk down the street in the best blocks in SF, and there's nothing but a sea of parking garages for all the homes. It's dead, except for the derelicts.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:50 PM
 
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New Orleans crime is lower than the national average. You're thinking about the murder rate.
Nasty outside of the central city?

Ok, lets see the disgusting city:

http://goo.gl/maps/V2pZD

http://goo.gl/maps/Td4gO

http://goo.gl/maps/hKDzz

http://goo.gl/maps/5LXnM

http://goo.gl/maps/5piAz

http://goo.gl/maps/8xVGE

http://goo.gl/maps/eDgSG

http://goo.gl/maps/jT94o

http://goo.gl/maps/BHUru

http://goo.gl/maps/mEFAc

Terrible surroundings huh?
It's easy to find nice neighborhoods and link them here. Now link some of the Wards like the 9th.

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@Chilly Gentilly. Kudos for not engaging him. Lol. First he completely dismissed the concrete information you gave him, then started randomly boosting Atlanta, and then called you delusional just because you showed him proof he was wrong. SMH! Hilarious.
By %. I don't like % because the larger metros take much more people to have the same percentage. I like to go by raw growth. NYC is a relatively low % growth, but still grows at a rate of nearly 2 million a decade.

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No offense, but NO is about 10 times the city feel of Atlanta. Atlanta (the city) feels more suburban than the suburbs of older cities. Some place like Long Island or New Jersey makes core Atlanta neighborhoods look like the country.

The most urban neighborhood in Atlanta looks like the suburbs of NO, IMO.
Who cares? In reality, most people do not care how Atlanta was planned or built out. In fact, the vast majority of Americans still live in the suburbs. To me, it seems people still choose to live in Atlanta much more then new Orleans by current raw population net growth.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:51 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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This is all BS, BTW.

I thought it sounded crazy, because I know the East Bay, and yeah, Montclair just made this all up.

According to Trulia, the median sales price for the entire Alameda county is around $500,000. Oakland is even lower than the Alameda county average.
Yawns. Take it up with Trulia sunshine.

The median price for a 4bd house in Oakland sold between Aug-Nov 2013 is $765,000
Oakland average and median listing prices - Trulia.com

The median price of a 4bd house in Berkeley sold between Aug-Nov 2013 is $1,177,500
Berkeley average and median listing prices - Trulia.com


This notion that you 'know the East Bay' is clearly what's made up. But don't fret hun, I'm here to educate you seeing as how I actually know what I'm talking about. Just let me know how else I can illuminate you from darkness.
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Old 11-28-2013, 11:52 PM
 
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It is? Ok, I guess. Very strange criteria.

So you agree that Atlanta is the #1 city in the world for tourism, I guess. And Detroit, Dallas and Houston are big tourist centers, correct?

And Venice, Italy has a tiny airport and only one non-European carrier, so I guess Venice isn't a tourist city? And Florence has none, so even less of a tourist city than Detroit. Thanks for clearing that one up!, I guess?
If you read, he said nothing like that. In fact, it was the opposite.
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