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View Poll Results: Will Houston surpass Chicago as the 3rd largest city by 2020?
Yes 497 41.49%
No 701 58.51%
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:14 AM
 
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No offense, but just because someone doesn't like your city, it does not mean they have never been. Even if they have a misconception about your city, it does not mean they have never been.
On City-Data, 85% of the time it does mean that they've never been. Lol, you're relatively new here, so I'm letting you know you have to check. People on here lie all the time about where they've been. In fact, I've caught some people in a lie.

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Maybe they are comparing it to what they know?
Which is another way of saying they're too lazy to check their facts.

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After all, in the many times that I have been to Houston it has felt like a giant suburb to me also. It's not nearly as bad as Phoenix, but it still has the suburb feel to it.
There are areas of Houston with a density of over 10,000 people per square mile, so I must ask, what the hell kind of suburb are you comparing Houston to?
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:18 AM
 
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No offense, but just because someone doesn't like your city, it does not mean they have never been. Even if they have a misconception about your city, it does not mean they have never been. Maybe they are comparing it to what they know? After all, in the many times that I have been to Houston it has felt like a giant suburb to me also. It's not nearly as bad as Phoenix, but it still has the suburb feel to it.
They used to say that about DC too, but that has drastically changed.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:22 AM
 
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There are areas of Houston with a density of over 10,000 people per square mile, so I must ask, what the hell kind of suburb are you comparing Houston to?
In fact, there are areas of Houston with around 20,000 people per square mile.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Corvallis, OR
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In fact, there are areas of Houston with around 20,000 people per square mile.
Yes, there area pockets of Houston that are dense. There are even pockets of Phoenix that are dense. However, as a city overall, Houston is sprawled out and does not have the dense city feeling that I get in NYC, San Francisco, or Seattle.

EDIT: Oh yeah, let me add to that list Chicago.

EDIT2: If you really want to show off how great Houston is, head over to the picture thread and post some pictures that may change peoples perceptions

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Old 11-07-2007, 08:55 AM
 
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Yes, there area pockets of Houston that are dense. There are even pockets of Phoenix that are dense. However, as a city overall, Houston is sprawled out and does not have the dense city feeling that I get in NYC, San Francisco, or Seattle.

EDIT: Oh yeah, let me add to that list Chicago.

EDIT2: If you really want to show off how great Houston is, head over to the picture thread and post some pictures that may change peoples perceptions
Well in that case, the term "urban" must be relative because I never get the feeling that I'm in a big suburb. In fact, some people move to the suburbs to escape the craziness of the city. The urban city.
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Old 11-07-2007, 08:57 AM
 
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I'm still very confused. Especially considering the fact that there are some areas of Houston that are more dense than some areas of Chicago.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:00 AM
 
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Yes, but overall Houston is nowhere near as dense as Chicago, the downtown is not nearly as large, and it does not have the overall city feel that Chicago does. Now, you say that some people flee to suburbs to escape the city, right? Thus, if a city has suburbs then it also must have a downtown core, right? Well, Phoenix has a ton of suburbs, and I think we can all agree that Phoenix itself (even downtown) feels like nothing more than a suburb. So, what are people trying to escape in Phoenix? Could it be that some cities just build suburb after another to accommodate a booming population. That is to say, rather than building up to begin with, they build out. Only now are these Sunbelt cities starting to realize the mistakes that they have made by building out as they have done.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:02 AM
 
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Yes, but overall Houston is nowhere near as dense as Chicago, the downtown is not nearly as large, and it does not have the overall city feel that Chicago does. Now, you say that some people flee to suburbs to escape the city, right? Thus, if a city has suburbs then it also must have a downtown core, right? Well, Phoenix has a ton of suburbs, and I think we can all agree that Phoenix itself (even downtown) feels like nothing more than a suburb. So, what are people trying to escape in Phoenix? Could it be that some cities just build suburb after another to accommodate a booming population. That is to say, rather than building up to begin with, they build out. Only now are these Sunbelt cities starting to realize the mistakes that they have made by building out as they have done.
I wasn't talking about Phoenix, I was talking about Houston.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:08 AM
 
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Alright, well I was using Phoenix to undermine your logic. However, you didn't seem to understand that. If you don't see that Houston is sprawled out, then you're either in denial or blind. But whatever, I am not going to argue with you. You're one of those "I have to defend my city no matter what" types, that much is obvious.
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Old 11-07-2007, 10:45 AM
 
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Alright, well I was using Phoenix to undermine your logic. However, you didn't seem to understand that. If you don't see that Houston is sprawled out, then you're either in denial or blind. But whatever, I am not going to argue with you. You're one of those "I have to defend my city no matter what" types, that much is obvious.
When did I ever say Houston was not sprawled out? When?? All I said is that it was urban and that it did not feel like a big suburb.

And no I'm not "one of those." I can list that city's shortcomings better than anyone on this forum.
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