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Yes, but, but, but "that's not fair"(crying and whiny) because Manhattan is half the physical size of SF( sound familiar?)
On the other hand, I dont mind because it exposes the fact that you cant beat SF unless you cut out 6.6 Million residents in the outer boroughs.
Per Capita Income, 2013 Inner Bay Area
Marin County $97,124
San Francisco County $84,356
San Mateo County $79,893
Santa Clara County $70,157
Contra Costa County $63,403
Alameda County $55,338
New York City
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328 Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
It's stats like these that lead me to believe that my previous assertion is 100% True: The outer boroughs is the urban equivalent to the Inland Empire. Massive, but economically useless.
and last but least...
Philadelphia County, PA $42,155
Why is Manhattan so much higher than SF? or Marin?
Are Hunterdon, Morris and Somerset in NJ better or West Chester in NY? etc.
in PA is Montgomery (more population than SF actually) better than Santa Clara or Contra Costa or Alameda
in terms of describing things as useless. I tend to think some posters and posts are massive and functionally real-world useless but that is one persons viewpoint
its is good comic relief as sometimes I wonder can they truly be this obtuse? and then think nah it can't be...
lastly a question in general to ponder. Is income or even education level the only value of ones worth or value? And if so to judge a place based on income and education level solely; would that be judgement of enlightened? not sure and I am sure I am not educated enough to even ponder...
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair
Yes, but, but, but "that's not fair"(crying and whiny) because Manhattan is half the physical size of SF( sound familiar?)
On the other hand, I dont mind because it exposes the fact that you cant beat SF unless you cut out 6.6 Million residents in the outer boroughs.
Per Capita Income, 2013 Inner Bay Area
Marin County $97,124
San Francisco County $84,356
San Mateo County $79,893
Santa Clara County $70,157
Contra Costa County $63,403
Alameda County $55,338
New York City
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328 Queens Borough $44,966 Brooklyn Borough $34,873 Bronx Borough $31,762
It's stats like these that lead me to believe that my previous assertion is 100% True: The outer boroughs is the urban equivalent to the Inland Empire. Massive, but economically useless.
and last but least...
Philadelphia County, PA $42,155
If anything, I said it makes the comparison more fair to argue to areas closer in size. 23 to 46 is closer than 10,000 to 304. And still half the land area, higher GDP/total wealth by far.
And that proves my point that SF/The Bay CAN be beaten on a per capita basis (we all know total wealth is a slaughter). Manhattan > anything in the Bay. Your the one who is clinging to the wealth argument on a per capita basis as if it's the end all be all, not I. If you want to argue inequality, fine, but The Bay simply has no answer for Manhattan.
Lol at throwing Philadelphia into the discussion. This is NYC/SF, remember?
Are Hunterdon, Morris and Somerset in NJ
better or West Chester in NY? etc.
Easy. Those are wealthy, largely White, low density, low grit, far flung suburban counties.
SF is the urban core of the Bay Area. New York City's Per Capita Income is around half of San Francisco's.
New York City Per Capita Income
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328
Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
vs.
San Francisco County $84,356
Just skimming through census tracts, the Northern Half of SF(23 sq miles) **easily** beats Manhattan.
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in PA is Montgomery (more population than
SF actually) better than Santa Clara or
Contra Costa or Alameda.
hahaha
Montgomery, PA is a wealthy suburb that is about 80% White. Congrats.
Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa each have 1 million+ population, each have no racial majority and have hundreds of thousands of immigrants. Yet all 3 are affluent counties. Truly, they EMBARRASS. Philly, the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
New York City Per Capita Income
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328
Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
Your numbers are widely different from the US Census
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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I didnt bring up per capita, btw.
But Im more than elated to talk about it.
Easy. Those are wealthy, largely White, low density, low grit, far flung suburban counties.
SF is the urban core of the Bay Area. New York City's Per Capita Income is around half of San Francisco's.
New York City Per Capita Income
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328
Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
vs.
San Francisco County $84,356
Just skimming through census tracts, the Northern Half of SF(23 sq miles) **easily** beats Manhattan.
hahaha
Montgomery, PA is a wealthy suburb that is about 80% White. Congrats.
Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa each have 1 million+ population, each have no racial majority and have hundreds of thousands of immigrants. Yet all 3 are affluent counties. Truly, they EMBARRASS. Philly, the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
Your numbers are widely different from the US Census
That's because the census figure is per capita household income, while bea.gov reports per capita personal income.
And just to add on to this:
Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa
each have 1 million+ population, each have
no racial majority and have hundreds of
thousands of immigrants. Yet all 3 are
affluent counties. Truly, they EMBARRASS.
Philly, the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
San Mateo County also has no racial majority, is a major immigrant hub and yet is very affluent.
If your figures are per capita household income, they're lower than the median household numbers for Brooklyn and Queens. Something is off.
That's not surprising. Household Per Capita is divided only by those reported in households. Per Capita Personal Income is all personal income divided by the entire population. It's not really a big deal(despite my bravado to qworld suggesting otherwise)
Easy. Those are wealthy, largely White, low density, low grit, far flung suburban counties.
SF is the urban core of the Bay Area. New York City's Per Capita Income is around half of San Francisco's.
New York City Per Capita Income
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328
Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
vs.
San Francisco County $84,356
Just skimming through census tracts, the Northern Half of SF(23 sq miles) **easily** beats Manhattan.
hahaha
Montgomery, PA is a wealthy suburb that is about 80% White. Congrats.
Santa Clara, Alameda and Contra Costa each have 1 million+ population, each have no racial majority and have hundreds of thousands of immigrants. Yet all 3 are affluent counties. Truly, they EMBARRASS. Philly, the Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens.
Morris and Somerset Counties are not far-flung. Both have a solid number of commuters into NYC. Both are 2-3 counties away from NYC - and NJ counties are very small.
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And if so to judge a place based on income and education level solely; would that be judgement of enlightened? not sure and I am sure I am not educated enough to even ponder...
