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View Poll Results: New York City vs San Francisco
New York 310 56.36%
San Francisco 240 43.64%
Voters: 550. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-03-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: So California
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Originally Posted by nslander View Post
Lordy, this is stupid. I'd much rather live in SF over NY, objective criteria be damned. If others feel differently, that's just swell. That is all.
SF does great in that category
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
Sure buddy, whatever you say.

(winks)

Read 'em and weep

Median Household Income, 2013
San Francisco City $77,485
New York City $52,223

San Francisco Urban Area $76,632
New York Urban Area $64,897

San Francisco MSA $79,624
New York MSA $65,786

San Francisco CSA $76,216
New York CSA $65,547

Median Family Income, 2013
San Francisco City $95,421
New York City $58,012

San Francisco Urban Area $91,802
New York Urban Area $78,052

San Francisco MSA $96,298
New York MSA $79,347

San Francisco CSA $90,265
New York CSA $79,740

Adults with a Bachelor Degree or Higher, 2013
San Francisco City 53.0%
New York City 35.7%

San Francisco Urban Area 45.5%
New York Urban Area 37.7%

San Francisco MSA 45.2%
New York MSA 37.4%

San Francisco CSA 41.2%
New York CSA 37.2%
Current-Dollar GDP by Metropolitan Area, 2014 (in millions):
New York MSA: $1,417,170
San Francisco MSA: $388,272
San Jose MSA: $196,829

Per Capita Income
New York County $121,632
San Francisco County $84,356

Mean Household Income
New York County: $128,721
San Francisco County: $107,520

Mean Family Income
New York County: $169,186
San Francisco County: $128,144

Adults with a Bachelor Degree or Higher
New York County: 58.1% (686,462 individuals)
San Francisco County: 52% (324,885 individuals)

To say nothing of NYC's suburban counties.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Originally Posted by nslander View Post
Lordy, this is stupid. I'd much rather live in SF over NY, objective criteria be damned. If others feel differently, that's just swell. That is all.
If you notice, they dont want to get into specifics. It's just like the SF vs LDN thread except now, insert New York.

This is the thread in a nutshell:

Any NYC booster: New York BY FAR.

18Montclair: How so?

Any NYC booster: Because New York
competes with London and Paris and
Tokyo.


18Montclair: And how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because New York is an
Alpha+++++++++++ Primate, MegaBot,
UberPower, DemiGod, Horse hung, Imperial
SUPER DUPER TROOPER(pooper) City.
Period. End of story.


18Montclair: Okay but how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because Alpha++ is
higher than Alpha-(SF)


18Montclair: But the Bay Area is wealthier,
better educated, has a much stronger
economy, has great career opportunities,
has more racial diversity AND integration on
a regional level, has an immeasurably
superior climate and unspeakably more
breathtaking natural beauty and recreation,
toss in the urban core of SF itself and I don't
think New York is really better at all, actually.

Any NYC booster: You fool! New York is
dripping in diamonds and is an
ALPHA++++++++++++++++ city. Mods,
please close the thread before 18Montclair
gets the last word. (walks off huffing and
puffing)


lol
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Originally Posted by cityKing View Post
New York if you enjoy diversity and variety.

San Fran if you enjoy homosexuality.
Not funny. And NYC has more homosexuals than SF, by the way.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Originally Posted by cityKing View Post
New York if you enjoy diversity and variety.

San Fran if you enjoy homosexuality.
Those aren't mutually exclusive. Much of NYC is a great place to enjoy homosexuality--and part of that ties into the great diversity and variety.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Watching half my country turn into Gilead
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Originally Posted by OyCrumbler View Post
Sure, this is great. Is this the rubric we're all going by? What about this are you assuming makes everyone else envious? Yes, the Bay Area is proportionally wealthier and more educated than the Tri-State Area and with that comes a proportionally higher percentage of people who have some kind of higher education. That's undeniable. The difference isn't that severe, but it exists. There's a lot else going on and being argued though.
It's the only argument he has. And even then, there are higher earning counties/zip codes in the Tri-State area. In raw numbers of both education and wealth, NYC trounces SF. For political engagement, NYC trounces SF. For entertainment and sports options, NYC trounces SF. For media influence and clout, NYC trounces SF. For fashion, NYC trounces SF. For diversity, it's closer, but NYC is the bigger immigrant hub, has a larger variety of races, and is more racially balanced. For public transportation, NYC trounces SF. For architecture/skyline buffs, NYC trounces SF. For international flights, NYC trounces SF. I could keep going, but he's just going to revert back to the one leg up SF has over NYC, per capita wealth and education. Awesome. As I've said earlier, this is a fight between a welterweight at best and a heavy weight--no competition.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:39 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
If you notice, they dont want to get into specifics. It's just like the SF vs LDN thread except now, insert New York.

This is the thread in a nutshell:

Any NYC booster: New York BY FAR.

18Montclair: How so?

Any NYC booster: Because New York
competes with London and Paris and
Tokyo.


18Montclair: And how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because New York is an
Alpha+++++++++++ Primate, MegaBot,
UberPower, DemiGod, Horse hung, Imperial
SUPER DUPER TROOPER(pooper) City.
Period. End of story.


18Montclair: Okay but how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because Alpha++ is
higher than Alpha-(SF)


18Montclair: But the Bay Area is wealthier,
better educated, has a much stronger
economy, has great career opportunities,
has more racial diversity AND integration on
a regional level, has an immeasurably
superior climate and unspeakably more
breathtaking natural beauty and recreation,
toss in the urban core of SF itself and I don't
think New York is really better at all, actually.

Any NYC booster: You fool! New York is
dripping in diamonds and is an
ALPHA++++++++++++++++ city. Mods,
please close the thread before 18Montclair
gets the last word. (walks off huffing and
puffing)


lol
Well, that's a warped view of the discussion with some pretty choice omittances of both what you and others have said. Good job!
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
If you notice, they dont want to get into specifics. It's just like the SF vs LDN thread except now, insert New York.

This is the thread in a nutshell:

Any NYC booster: New York BY FAR.

18Montclair: How so?

Any NYC booster: Because New York
competes with London and Paris and
Tokyo.


18Montclair: And how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because New York is an
Alpha+++++++++++ Primate, MegaBot,
UberPower, DemiGod, Horse hung, Imperial
SUPER DUPER TROOPER(pooper) City.
Period. End of story.


18Montclair: Okay but how does that make
New York 'better' than SF?


Any NYC booster: Because Alpha++ is
higher than Alpha-(SF)


18Montclair: But the Bay Area is wealthier,
better educated, has a much stronger
economy, has great career opportunities,
has more racial diversity AND integration on
a regional level, has an immeasurably
superior climate and unspeakably more
breathtaking natural beauty and recreation,
toss in the urban core of SF itself and I don't
think New York is really better at all, actually.

Any NYC booster: You fool! New York is
dripping in diamonds and is an
ALPHA++++++++++++++++ city. Mods,
please close the thread before 18Montclair
gets the last word. (walks off huffing and
puffing)


lol
Why don't you just come out and say "New York can't compete against San Francisco", since NYC is clearly outmatched by the mighty Bay Area even when Philly is combined with NYC. Which also happens to be the greatest metropolis every created on earth. Some of you boosters crack me up!
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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Originally Posted by qworldorder View Post
Not funny. And NYC has more homosexuals than SF, by the way.
San Francisco is more a LGBT friendly city than NYC.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yawns.

Quote:
Originally Posted by qworldorder View Post
Current-Dollar GDP by Metropolitan Area, 2014 (in millions):
New York MSA: $1,417,170
San Francisco MSA: $388,272
San Jose MSA: $196,829
No, that's 2013 data.

and that comes out to:

Per Capita GDP
San Jose MSA $102,000
San Francisco MSA $85,000
New York MSA $71,000

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Per Capita Income
New York County $121,632
San Francisco County $84,356

Mean Household Income
New York County: $128,721
San Francisco County: $107,520

Mean Family Income
New York County: $169,186
San Francisco County: $128,144
Sorri, no clean sweep the way SF steamrolls over NYC.

Median Household Income, 2013
San Francisco, CA $77,485
Manhattan, NY $72,190
Philadelphia, PA $36,836

Median Family Income, 2013
San Francisco, CA $95,421
Manhattan, NY $88,247
Philadelphia, PA $48,584

Quote:
Adults with a Bachelor Degree or Higher
New York County: 58.1% (686,462 individuals)
San Francisco County: 52% (324,885 individuals)
Adults That do not possess at least a Bachelor Degree, 2013
New York 3.722 Million...12,000 per sq mile
San Francisco 300,000....6,000 per sq mile

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To say nothing of NYC's suburban counties.
Yes, please try to make us forget about this:

Per Capita Income, 2013
Inner Bay Area: Population 6.4 Million

Marin County $97,124
San Francisco County $84,356
San Mateo County $79,893
Santa Clara County $70,157
Contra Costa County $63,403
Alameda County $55,338

New York City: Population 8.4 Million
Manhattan Borough $121,632
Staten Island Borough $51,328
Queens Borough $44,966
Brooklyn Borough $34,873
Bronx Borough $31,762
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