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View Poll Results: Which one?
Boston 102 75.00%
Philadelpha 12 8.82%
New York 22 16.18%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-23-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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The thing with Boston is that it's a very polished city. It's a very storied but modern place, storied in the sense that it's history is preserved and modern in the sense that when you look at it's roads, train stations, and buildings-- they're just so well kept. Also love how the hills right north of the city come crashing down on the coast. I think Boston has several enviable factors to it, the low crime rate (at metropolitan level at that), the progressive nature of the city, the ambition and innovation, quality of service, the performing arts, and the power hitter that is New England culture.

Boston's one of my top 5 US cities to live in, which as everyone's probably seen before I have quite a long list up to 16 but truth be told it's one of the FAR and few on my short list and one of which I wouldn't ever consider a step down moving from Washington DC. The other 4 being New York, Chicago, Miami, and San Francisco.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Yeah Philadelphia receives more domestic tourists than Boston but Boston receives more foreign tourists. However when you add it all up, overall Philadelphia receives more tourists than Boston yearly. On topic San Francisco is most similar to Boston out of the 3 cities
It was me who said that Boston was more of a tourist destination than Philly. I based that on the Wikipedia entries for both cities. The Boston and San Francisco entries both mentioned tourism as a major industry while the Philadelphia site didn't. I apologize for misstating the facts.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:57 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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This is nonsense. SF is and will always be SF. If it was like any other city it wouldn't be my 3rd fave in the US.
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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It was me who said that Boston was more of a tourist destination than Philly. I based that on the Wikipedia entries for both cities. The Boston and San Francisco entries both mentioned tourism as a major industry while the Philadelphia site didn't. I apologize for misstating the facts.
No problem. Here is a more accurate list of 10 most visited cities from 2011:

1. Orlando- 48 million
2. New York City- 47 million
3. Chicago- 45.5 million
4. Anaheim/ Orange County, California- 42.7 million
5. Miami- 38.1 million
6. Las Vegas- 36.5 million
7. Atlanta- 35.4 million
8. Houston- 31 million
9. Philadelphia- 30.3 million
10. San Diego- 29.6 million

List: America's Most-Visited Cities - 10. San Diego, Calif.: 29,600,000 visitors - Forbes.com
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:34 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Here is a more accurate list of 10 most visited cities from 2011:

1. Orlando- 48 million
2. New York City- 47 million
3. Chicago- 45.5 million
4. Anaheim/ Orange County, California- 42.7 million
5. Miami- 38.1 million
6. Las Vegas- 36.5 million
7. Atlanta- 35.4 million
8. Houston- 31 million
9. Philadelphia- 30.3 million
10. San Diego- 29.6 million

List: America's Most-Visited Cities - 10. San Diego, Calif.: 29,600,000 visitors - Forbes.com
Wow, I'm really surprised that San Francisco isn't on that list. The tourism industry is huge here.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Liberal in Boston is very different than liberal in SF...
That's very true...in general, the West Coast liberal in is quite a bit different than the East Coast variety.
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Old 01-24-2013, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Denver
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And the same can be said about Boston. The Kendall Square/East Cambridge area, right across Charles River, has a ton of office space that's not factored in the Cushman survey.
Yep, according to Grubb-Ellis, there's another 20 million sq feet of space right across the river in Cambridge.

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However the overall point was about Center City vs Downtown Boston...whose sizes are more/less equal.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Boston, Philadelphia and New York grew up together and share similar histories. IMO San Francisco is the outlier out of these 4 cities from an architectural and cityscape perspective. This may offend people but the architecure in SF really does leave a lot to be desired. SF is also the outlier in regards to natural scenery, as it may be the most picturesque city in the country.

It only makes sense, being thousands of Miles away and all and growing into it's own at a completely different point in history.

Population 1850
NYC 696,115
Boston 136,000
Phila 121,000
SF 25,000

Population 1860
NYC 1,174,779
Phila 565,529
Boston 177,840
SF 56,802

Population 1900
NYC 3,437,000
Phila 1,293,000
Boston 560,000
SF 342,000

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Old 01-24-2013, 09:11 AM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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Why do people keep talking about population and architecture? Apparently there are like 3 people who actually read the OP's post.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Why do people keep talking about population and architecture? Apparently there are like 3 people who actually read the OP's post.
The OP's post is very vague and only mentions literature, media and politics as barometers. He also quoted a post that doesn't make exact sense. Although it is true that SF, Boston and Philly are infinitely more closely related on an economic level than they are to NYC.

SF, Boston and Philadelphia all take noticeable backseats to other cities on these media exposure measures, especially NYC and LA and even Miami and DC (politics) so it is a very subjective and somewhat uninteresting discussion.

If I could try to discern what he is getting at, it would be that SF and Boston (and of course NYC) have a more positive reputation throughout the country than does Philly. But this is all very subjective. I see Boston and Philly paired up MUCH more often than SF and Boston. I don't know if I've ever seen Boston and SF paired up, except when talking about Boston's tech sector. People on the East Coast really don't think a whole lot about SF, which makes sense given it's location.

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