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Actually SF is not really like any of these places aside from anecdotal similarities. Boston is not weird enough, or mediterranean enough, or liberal enough, or asian enough, or mexican enough, etc
These are 2 completely different places that don't look or feel anything alike. What they are similar sizes and both are on the water but that's pretty much it. Boston is also more blue collar than SF.
Mostly agree but of these to me there is the most similarity (not saying they are the same by any means)
Education, Helath, Tech, Finance, Liberal, Educated populace, setting sort of , anchoring a region, city size etc.
Though similarities (and many differences) can be found among any of them
Boston has the most similarities of the three. I don't see the NYC comparison at all (way too big), though I can see some similarities with Philadelphia.
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Boston, it's a no-brainer. From the architectural styles - Pacific Heights is like Beacon Hill, for instance, being the 'historic' cities of each coast, education and tech, a liberal population.
I would say that on another level, Seattle is a similar come with the Terrain, tech, liberal vibe, coast, just minus the 'historical' and somewhat education component. Although, we are talking about the three most educated populations in the US (Seattle, SF, Boston).
If you have been to downtown SF and Center city, you would clearly see that they are on par with eachother... Boston is below them two powerhouses by the slightest. And even in our density they compare at the centers. If Philly did not have northeast or northwest Sections the density would be the same...
I haven't been to SF, but I have a hard time saying DT Boston is "smaller" than Center City. It's virtually the same in population and has more office space.
I haven't been to SF, but I have a hard time saying DT Boston is "smaller" than Center City. It's virtually the same in population and has more office space.
Philadelphia beats Boston in City Center population
1 Mile radius population-
1. NYC 141K
2. SF 103K
3. Philadelphia 87K
4. Boston 80K
5. Chicago 40K
2 Mile radius population-
1. NYC 506K
2. San Francisco 300K
3. Philadelphia 243K
4. Boston 213K
5. Chicago 160K
Office Space 2011 Midtown Manhattan - 306,453,288
Chicago - 121,144,705
Downtown Manhattan - 86,372,50 Boston - 60,803,309
Atlanta - 49,980,62 (includes downtown, Buckhead, and Midtown)
San Francisco - 49,261,846 Philadelphia - 43,716,633
Seattle - 41,841,902
Houston - 37,875,867
Washington D.C. - 31,981,656 (CBD only)
These numbers for Philadelphia only include Center City though, and don't include University City for Philadelphia, which is right across the river from Center City. There is also a second large business district in City Line Avenue (Bala Cynwyd and West Philadelphia). Also, Philadelphia has massive suburban business districts in King of Prussia/ Conshohocken/ Norristown, Wilmington, and Jenkintown.
I haven't been to SF, but I have a hard time saying DT Boston is "smaller" than Center City. It's virtually the same in population and has more office space.
Agree for the most part Boston, SF, and Philly are more similar than dissimilar in regards to size. pretty comparable on most metrics
Office Space 2011 Midtown Manhattan - 306,453,288
Chicago - 121,144,705
Downtown Manhattan - 86,372,50 Boston - 60,803,309
Atlanta - 49,980,62 (includes downtown, Buckhead, and Midtown)
San Francisco - 49,261,846 Philadelphia - 43,716,633
Seattle - 41,841,902
Houston - 37,875,867
Washington D.C. - 31,981,656 (CBD only)
These numbers for Philadelphia only include Center City though, and don't include University City for Philadelphia, which is right across the river from Center City. There is also a second large business district in City Line Avenue (Bala Cynwyd and West Philadelphia). Also, Philadelphia has massive suburban business districts in King of Prussia/ Conshohocken/ Norristown, Wilmington, and Jenkintown.
Does this take into account that much of downtown Boston is surrounded by water?
I don't think they have much in common. But forget the size. If anything I'd say it shares more cultural aspects with lower manhattan or brooklyn. Has the high end + very hip and artsy aspects going on for it. Both have very strong hipster, coffee shop and book store cultures. Both have very strong foodie cultures. Both the top 2 expensive places. Extremely diverse, visible asian populations, some dirtiness to the streets also in parts. Both have easily the 2 best chinatowns in the U.S. Both had a beatnik and bohemian movements. Many writers went between both cities. Both have their own MoMA. Statistics wise it compares better to Boston or Philly but... as far as vibe, not so much. Liberal in Boston is very different than liberal in SF...
Lets stay on topic about cultural similarities and differences-- and take the argument from there. I made this thread to see things about culture, persona, the arts, food, vibe, so on rather than the statistics that are posted time and time again en masse all over this forum at every given chance. There are already existing threads for that, please.
No offense but when we visit these places in actual life things like "office space" and mile radius aren't things we think about. Especially in regards to "which city reminds one of the other the closest".
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