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View Poll Results: Georgia (minus Atlanta) vs South Carolina
Georgia (minus ATL) 17 29.31%
South Carolina 41 70.69%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-06-2012, 07:50 AM
 
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No not just Emory,Ga Tech in Atlanta In Georgia :UGA, Mercer University,Covenant College also.
True for GA Tech, but we're talking about GA outside of metro Atlanta here. UGA and Clemson are basically on the same level (ranked #63 and #68 nationally, respectively). Mercer ranks #7 as a Southern regional university; The Citadel ranks #5 in the same category. Furman ranks higher than Covenant.

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I can telll you.Charlotte MSA reaches well into SC as well as Augusta also.But none in S.C. reach into another of its border states I dont think.
Charlotte's MSA doesn't "reach well into SC;" only one SC county is included. Aiken and Edgefield counties are included in the Augusta MSA, but in that case, it's more of an example of cross-commuting as some of the largest employment centers in the Augusta MSA are on the SC side of the metro, like Savannah River Site and Bridgestone. However, I still don't know what Newsboy meant by his statement since only one SC county is in a NC MSA; I'll let him answer for himself on that one.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Plus Georgia has way more beach areas.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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If you want to take out Atlanta then its not quite right to use MSA.Not to mention cities like Gainesville arfe in the CSA but not MSA of Atlanta
If you take Georgia cities,all of them are larger
I see what you're saying -

however

South Carolina has conservative annexation rules that restrict city limits. SC comparing "city limits" populations against other states will typically be an apples-to-oranges comparison. You'd get the opposite effect by comparing counties -- Georgia, for whatever reason, has a ton of really small counties.



I don't see what it matters anyway, it's not like a bigger city (or MSA or CSA) means a better one. Georgia's best city is Athens IMO, followed by Savannah.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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Voted South Carolina because of Charleston, TONS of attractive people.
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Old 10-06-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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SIGH ...

Georgia has better roads. Georgia has better schools (k-12 and university level). Georgia has less volatile state and local poltics.

South Carolina plays second-fiddle to North Carolina. Georgia stands completely on its own.


Georgia stands on its own alright. Nobody else wants it. South Carolina is much better.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Charlotte (Hometown: Columbia SC)
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We already know ATL is a beast. I admit it. But there have been plenty of other VS. threads taking out largest cities (NYC etc).......

Yes, SC metro's are LARGER than GAs......

Are you saying we should STOP comparing Atlanta's MSA to Chicago's/Miami's/Houston's and just do city limits.

It is FAIR to compare metros because the city limit population is flawed......ALL of South Carolina's big three metro's are larger than Georgia's without Atlanta.....So SC cities/MSAs stack up pretty well to GA IMO
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Charlotte (Hometown: Columbia SC)
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Oh and congrats to SC for kicking the poodles behinds
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Charlotte (Hometown: Columbia SC)
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How you gonna tell me Georgia's next largest city "Augusta" is stronger than Columbia, Charleston, or Greenville?
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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What exactly is inaccurate? And I thought earlier, you implied that it wasn't accurate to use MSA's but rather city populations?

Because what can explain why the economic impact(toursim) more money for Charleston when it has way less visitors than SAV?It makes no sense.So somewhere there is some wrong info within the 2 state tourism numbers.

In terms of economic impact, it really doesn't look like GA comes close to be honest.
I still say its debatable.I was looking for the numbers for The Golden Isle but have not found them yet
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:03 PM
 
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Because what can explain why the economic impact(toursim) more money for Charleston when it has way less visitors than SAV?It makes no sense.So somewhere there is some wrong info within the 2 state tourism numbers.
So since you don't understand it, you question the legitimacy of the statistics. You're grasping here man.

Furthermore, it makes plenty of sense when you understand how differently Charleston and Savannah operate. First of all, Charleston is a much more business-oriented city, so it will naturally have more business travelers and they tend to spend more on average than leisure travelers. Charleston also has a much busier airport which contributes to higher tourism revenue, and it has more shopping and cultural amenities that generate greater revenues as well. This isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, but although St. Patrick's Day in Savannah draws several times more tourists than Spoleto in Charleston, the latter draws in more well-heeled visitors that are likely to spend more money.
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