San Francisco vs. Chicago. (living, state, compared, population)

[oakparkdude]

I'll just state the obvious that highly-compensated does not map one-to-one with intelligence (or even successful) and anyone who thinks that it does has a dysfunctional value system.

[johnatl]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

I'll just state the obvious that highly-compensated does not map one-to-one with intelligence (or even successful) and anyone who thinks that it does has a dysfunctional value system.

I could not agree with you more! Great post.

[grapico]

Originally Posted by sukwoo

I'll just state the obvious that highly-compensated does not map one-to-one with intelligence (or even successful) and anyone who thinks that it does has a dysfunctional value system.

good post... I'll be moving to one of those areas soon.. but won't be highly compensated. For many fields intelligence or even high education doesn't have a high correlation with actual wealth... Maybe happiness though... I am looking forward to it. I'll be happy to be lower middle class to middle class and still enjoy the area amenities (the rich also pay more to us poors)Case in point I have a friend at Peet's coffee there that brings in over 20 dollars an hour after tips.

[Americanboy]

Wowwww euro is exactly like HSW but even worse!!!

How is that even possible?? What is in that SF water you guys are drinking?

[grapico]

Originally Posted by Americanboy

Wowwww euro is exactly like HSW but even worse!!!

How is that even possible?? What is in that SF water you're drinking?

acai and goji berries w/ an afternoon kombucha.

[AZLiam]

Originally Posted by Americanboy

Wowwww euro is exactly like HSW but even worse!!!

How is that even possible?? What is in that SF water you guys are drinking?

I'm further convinced that he is most likely unemployed (why else could he be so bitter) living vicariously in a cyber fantasy.

[MassVt]

..are skilled in the art of "taking", and yet contribute nothing of value for anyone else.

[EastSideMKE]

Originally Posted by eurous1

Silly and misleading statistics; New York City holds 404,000 millionaires/CBA holds 750,000+ millionaires. Counties are silly/obsolete way to count affluence since [X County] can be 10X > than [X County] i.e. LA County 3X larger than any county in America so one would hope it would be at top ) below are the true statistics:

What the hell are you talking about? LA County isn't 3X larger than any county in America.

List of most populous counties
1. Los Angeles County California 9,878,554
2. Cook County Illinois 5,285,107
3. Harris County Texas 4,011,475
4. Maricopa County Arizona 3,990,181
5. Orange County California 2,997,033
6. San Diego County California 2,974,859
7. Kings County New York 2,528,050
8. Miami-Dade County Florida 2,387,170
9. Dallas County Texas 2,366,511
10. Queens County New York 2,270,338

Originally Posted by eurous1

As evidenced, NY/SF trumps any other city re: successful/high-achieving/smart/enlightened/financiers/hedge funders/ competent populace.

If those people are so "smart" and "enlightened," then why is the US economy in the toilet?

Originally Posted by eurous1

Although one could argue millionaire stats are seemingly obsulute and only $1mm in assets could be considered middle-class/aspirational so billionaire stats are far more relevant than middle-class/(<$10mm net worth millioniare) stats. SF/NY has highest concentration/sheer populace of highly-compensated/smart people in entire world.

According to the information you posted, both Los Alamos, New Mexico and Naples, Florida come in ahead of NYC and SF in terms of concentration of millionaires.

However, according to this information, SF is well below Chicago in terms of wealth.

City Mayors reviews the richest cities in the world in 2005
Richest cities and urban areas in 2005
1. Tokyo, Japan $1191 B
2. New York, USA $1133 B
3. Los Angeles, USA $639 B
4. Chicago, USA $460 B
5. Paris France, $460 B
6. London, UK $452 B
7. Osaka/Kobe, Japan $341 B
8. Mexico City, Mexico $315 B
9. Philadelphia, USA $312 B
10. Washington DC, USA $299 B
11. Boston, USA $290 B
12. Dallas/Fort Worth, USA $268 B
13. Buenos Aires, Argentina $245 B
14. Hong Kong, China $244 B
15. San Francisco/Oakland, USA $242 B
16. Atlanta, USA $236 B
17. Houston, USA $235 B
18. Miami, USA $231 B
19. Sao Paulo, Brazil $225 B
20. Seoul, South Korea $218 B

Originally Posted by eurous1

The smartest grads from nations top 10 institutions are attracted to New York/SF. Other groups such as community college dropouts/state college/sub-par graduates from third-world dump institutions usually find themselves in Illinois/Texas/Arizona/San Fernando Valley/Kentucky (Darwinism at its finest ); nowhere on planet has as many smart/wealthy people concentrated within a few blocks as Midtown Manhattan/nondescript suburban offices in Bay Area on a wkday.

This is priceless. So I guess all those guys at Microsoft in Seattle, Lockheed Martin in Denver, or Boeing in Chicago are just a bunch of community college drop-outs.

Originally Posted by eurous1

Forbes Billioniare Count:

New York Area 88
San Francisco Area 42
Los Angeles Area 35
Dallas Area 24
Chicago Area 18
Washington DC Area 12
Houston Area 9
Minneapolis Area 9
Boston Area 7
Denver Area 6
Detroit Area 5
Las Vegas Area 5
Seattle Area 5
Atlanta Area 4
Pittsburgh Area 4
Cleveland Area 3
Nashville Area 3
Phoenix Area 3
San Antonio Area 3
San Diego Area 3

As further evidenced SF/NY easily trumps podunk cities i.e. Chicago when it comes to affluence/influence.

Stop lumping NYC together with SF, as if they're somehow related to one another. Shouldn't you be out making zillions instead of posting on little internet forums? I would think somebody who owns a Ferrari would make better use of their time, instead of fraternizing with lowly "poors" such as myself.

[RonaldoSan]

you need to recognize that your numbers for San Francisco/Oakland DO NOT include San Jose. So it somewhat misleading since San Jose is clearly part of the metro area. Silicon Valley is very wealthy and not including it knocks the Bay Area down many positions.

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

What the hell are you talking about? LA County isn't 3X larger than any county in America.

List of most populous counties
1. Los Angeles County California 9,878,554
2. Cook County Illinois 5,285,107
3. Harris County Texas 4,011,475
4. Maricopa County Arizona 3,990,181
5. Orange County California 2,997,033
6. San Diego County California 2,974,859
7. Kings County New York 2,528,050
8. Miami-Dade County Florida 2,387,170
9. Dallas County Texas 2,366,511
10. Queens County New York 2,270,338



If those people are so "smart" and "enlightened," then why is the US economy in the toilet?



According to the information you posted, both Los Alamos, New Mexico and Naples, Florida come in ahead of NYC and SF in terms of concentration of millionaires.

However, according to this information, SF is well below Chicago in terms of wealth.

[URL="http://www.citymayors.com/statistics/richest-cities-2005.html"]City Mayors reviews the richest cities in the world in 2005[/URL]
Richest cities and urban areas in 2005
1. Tokyo, Japan $1191 B
2. New York, USA $1133 B
3. Los Angeles, USA $639 B
4. Chicago, USA $460 B
5. Paris France, $460 B
6. London, UK $452 B
7. Osaka/Kobe, Japan $341 B
8. Mexico City, Mexico $315 B
9. Philadelphia, USA $312 B
10. Washington DC, USA $299 B
11. Boston, USA $290 B
12. Dallas/Fort Worth, USA $268 B
13. Buenos Aires, Argentina $245 B
14. Hong Kong, China $244 B
15. San Francisco/Oakland, USA $242 B
16. Atlanta, USA $236 B
17. Houston, USA $235 B
18. Miami, USA $231 B
19. Sao Paulo, Brazil $225 B
20. Seoul, South Korea $218 B



This is priceless. So I guess all those guys at Microsoft in Seattle, Lockheed Martin in Denver, or Boeing in Chicago are just a bunch of community college drop-outs.



Stop lumping NYC together with SF, as if they're somehow related to one another. Shouldn't you be out making zillions instead of posting on little internet forums? I would think somebody who owns a Ferrari would make better use of their time, instead of fraternizing with lowly "poors" such as myself.

[vdy1985]

eurous1, give it up. Stop biting another poster's style and twisting it. Get your own style. hsw's post are actually good at times, you are just twisting it.