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Old 08-30-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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How is New York segregated in the apex of political leadership?
Look at this list:

List of mayors of New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Quite a few Italian mayors and quite a few Jewish mayors, including the current one. What was the bakcground of Chicago mayors?

C'mon now. You know your history. Chicago politics is so racially charged that white Dems and Reps often unite to figth a black candidate. You touching uppon politics even given extremely shady history of Chicago politics???? Ubelievable. Read on:



When Richard J. Daley died on December 20, 1976, the President Pro Tempore of the City Council, Wilson Frost, announced that he was now Acting Mayor. However, many on the white majority city council disputed the claim of Frost, an African American. After nearly a week of closed-door negotiations, the City Council announced that Bilandic had been selected to serve as Acting Mayor for approximately six months, until a special election could be held to choose a mayor to fill out the remaining two years in the late Mayor Daley's term. Bilandic was selected with the proviso that he would not contend in this election.

and this:

Although winning the Democratic primary is normally tantamount to election in heavily Democratic Chicago, after his primary victory Washington found that his Republican opponent, former state legislator Bernard Epton (earlier considered a nominal stand-in), was supported by many white Democrats and ward organizations, including the chairman of the Cook County Democratic Party, Alderman Edward "Fast Eddie" Vrdolyak.[30] Epton's campaign referred to, among other things, Washington's conviction for failure to file income tax returns. (He had paid the taxes, but had not filed a return.) However, Washington appealed to his constituency in his mayoral political campaign, and stressed such things as reforming the Chicago patronage system and the need for a jobs program in a tight economy. In the April 22, 1983, mayoral general election, Washington defeated Epton by 3.7%, 51.7% to 48.0%, to become mayor of Chicago. Washington was sworn in as mayor on April 29, 1983, and resigned his Congressional seat the following day.
Washington's first term in office was characterized by ugly, racially polarized battles dubbed "Council Wars", referring to the then-recent Star Wars films. A 29–21 City Council majority refused to enact Washington's reform legislation and prevented him from appointing reform nominees to boards and commissions. Other first-term items include overall city population loss, increased crime, and a massive decrease in ridership on the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA). This helped earn the city the nickname "Beirut on the Lake", and many people wondered if Chicago would ever recover or face the more permanent declines of other cities in the U.S. Midwest.
The twenty-nine, also known as the Vrdolyak Twenty-nine, was led by "the Eddies": Alderman Ed Vrdolyak, Finance Chair Edward Burke and Parks Commissioner Edmund Kelly. The Eddies were supported by State's Attorney Richard M. Daley, U.S. Congressmen Dan Rostenkowski and William Lipinski, and other powerful white Democrats.
During one of the first Council meetings, Harold Washington was unable to get his appointments approved. Harold Washington and the twenty-one ward representatives that supported him, walked out of the meeting after a quorum had been established. Vrdolyak and the other twenty-eight were able to appoint all of the boards and chairs. Later lawsuits submitted by Harold Washington and others were dismissed because it was determined that the appointments were legally made.

Irish; Croatian; Czech.

Yeah, cause Denkin's time was soooooooo easy and unracially charged. LMFBAO!! You seriously need a dose of sanity.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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New York, Chicago....same crap, different state

At least from what I've read when it pertains to Asians (especially Asian men), both of these places suck azz, although Chicago is considered a little better LoL
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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Irish; Croatian; Czech.

Yeah, cause Denkin's time was soooooooo easy and unracially charged. LMFBAO!! You seriously need a dose of sanity.
Who is Denkin?
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:13 PM
 
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Beverly? Uptown? Edgewater? Lincoln Square? South Loop? Bridgeport? New City? Armour Square? West ridge? Albany park?
Beverly is almost all black nowadays. Very segregated.

Uptown and Edgewater are integrated. I'll give you that.

Lincoln Square is definitely NOT integrated. Yuppie in one part, Mexican in the other.

South Loop? LOL. Horrible ghetto on one side, half-empty yuppie condos on other side.

Bridgeport? LOL. Racist and 0% black, while surrounding neighborhoods are 100% black. Many incidents of African Americans being attacked for walking through Bridgeport.

A few Asians, but only bordering Chinatown.

Armour Square? 100% Mexican or 100% black, depending on side of neighborhood.

North Center? Yuppie on one side, Mexican on the other.

Albany Park? Yes, definitely. Albany Park is very diverse, and actually reminds me of parts of the outer boroughs of NYC. Nothing else in Chicago comes close.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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Who is Denkin?

Dinkins
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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Beverly is almost all black nowadays. Very segregated.

Uptown and Edgewater are integrated. I'll give you that.

Lincoln Square is definitely NOT integrated. Yuppie in one part, Mexican in the other.

South Loop? LOL. Horrible ghetto on one side, half-empty yuppie condos on other side.

Bridgeport? LOL. Racist and 0% black, while surrounding neighborhoods are 100% black. Many incidents of African Americans being attacked for walking through Bridgeport.

A few Asians, but only bordering Chinatown.

Armour Square? 100% Mexican or 100% black, depending on side of neighborhood.

North Center? Yuppie on one side, Mexican on the other.

Albany Park? Yes, definitely. Albany Park is very diverse, and actually reminds me of parts of the outer boroughs of NYC. Nothing else in Chicago comes close.
Really, cause this says Beverly has a white majority...
Beverly, Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No Asians in Bridgeport either, I see. And I walked around. Nothing happened to me.

South Loop also has a sizeable contingent of black professionals, sir. And I see "ghetto" connotates black for you. Mmmhmm...

I think the new reality is different than what you might be used to...
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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Manhattan, Queens, Bronx, Brooklyn, LI, and Jersey. I used to live in Ny in 04 so Im no stranger. I also lived in Jersey.
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Fresh from New York and ready to jump back on the plane for a return (hopefully permanent)....first off Id like to start this post by saying that I am a lifelong proud Chicagoan. Now let me proceed.
Ralph Furley, stop posting. You've been outed as a fraud.

In your first post you'd just visited NYC and had found the promised land. You'd been stuck in Chicago your whole life and unaware of the way things were in NYC.

In your later postings, in a vain attempt to save your credibility, you stated that you used to live in NYC.

Troll.

The people who have been posting on this site for a while know who the trolls are.

Goodbye troll.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:20 PM
 
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Dinkins
Dinkins? He was welcomed into the office. He proved himself very incable of dealing with the 10M city, so did Koch who ws the mayor before him (Jewish).
The next mayor Gulliani (Italian) and Bloomberg (Jewish) proved to be very good managers and organizers. By the way, Dinkins was Manhattan boro president, one that someone tried to portray as segregated here LOL
You Chicagoans talk sh*t but you are so clueless it is pathetic. Read on, maybe you'll learn something.


Political career

Dinkins rose through the Democratic Party organization in Harlem and became part of an influential group of African-American politicians that included Percy Sutton, Basil Paterson, Denny Farrell, and Charles Rangel. As an investor, Dinkins was one of fifty African American investors who helped Percy Sutton found Inner City Broadcasting Corporation in 1971. He served briefly in the New York State Legislature and for many years as New York City Clerk.
He was named Deputy Mayor by Mayor Abraham D. Beame but was ultimately not appointed. He was elected Manhattan Borough President in 1985 on his third run for that office. He was elected the city's mayor on November 7, 1989, having defeated three-term incumbent Mayor Ed Koch and two others to win the Democratic nomination and going on to narrowly defeat Rudy Giuliani, the Republican candidate.

Mayoralty

Dinkins entered office pledging racial healing throughout what he called the "gorgeous mosaic" of New York's diverse communities. Many New Yorkers felt that his low-key personality, which contrasted so sharply with that of his predecessor, along with the symbolic aspect of his being the city's first black mayor, might ease racial tensions. Instead, Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events including the 1991 Crown Heights Riot and the boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush. He was accused of restraining the police during the Crown Heights Riot.
His critics have described him as weak and indecisive, if well-intentioned, at best. He was hurt by the perception that crime was out of control during his administration, although crime actually declined during the last 36 months of his four-year term, ending a 30 year upward spiral and initiating a trend of falling rates that continued well beyond his term.[2][3] Dinkins also initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%.[4]
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:23 PM
 
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Ralph Furley, stop posting. You've been outed as a fraud.

In your first post you'd just visited NYC and had found the promised land. You'd been stuck in Chicago your whole life and unaware of the way things were in NYC.

In your later postings, in a vain attempt to save your credibility, you stated that you used to live in NYC.

Troll.

The people who have been posting on this site for a while know who the trolls are.

Goodbye troll.
Goodbye, gtownoe. I think you guys should creat your own city-data. One where only positive comments about Chicago will be allowed. No one could mention segregation, corruption or Cubs terrible track record LOL Once where Chicago Tribune beats New York Times beats as easily as Chicago's intellectual and cultural elites beat New York's.
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Old 08-30-2009, 03:26 PM
 
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Dinkins? He was welcomed into the office. He proved himself very incable of dealing with the 10M city, so did Koch who replaced him (Jewish).
The next mayor Gulliani (Italian) and Bloomberg (Jewish) proved to be very good managers and organizers. By the way, Dinkins was Manhattan boro president, one that someone tried to portray as segregated here LOL You Chicagoans talk sh*t but you are so clueless it is pathetic.
Read on, maybe you'll learn something.


Political career

Dinkins rose through the Democratic Party organization in Harlem and became part of an influential group of African-American politicians that included Percy Sutton, Basil Paterson, Denny Farrell, and Charles Rangel. As an investor, Dinkins was one of fifty African American investors who helped Percy Sutton found Inner City Broadcasting Corporation in 1971. He served briefly in the New York State Legislature and for many years as New York City Clerk.
He was named Deputy Mayor by Mayor Abraham D. Beame but was ultimately not appointed. He was elected Manhattan Borough President in 1985 on his third run for that office. He was elected the city's mayor on November 7, 1989, having defeated three-term incumbent Mayor Ed Koch and two others to win the Democratic nomination and going on to narrowly defeat Rudy Giuliani, the Republican candidate.

Mayoralty

Dinkins entered office pledging racial healing throughout what he called the "gorgeous mosaic" of New York's diverse communities. Many New Yorkers felt that his low-key personality, which contrasted so sharply with that of his predecessor, along with the symbolic aspect of his being the city's first black mayor, might ease racial tensions. Instead, Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events including the 1991 Crown Heights Riot and the boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush. He was accused of restraining the police during the Crown Heights Riot.
His critics have described him as weak and indecisive, if well-intentioned, at best. He was hurt by the perception that crime was out of control during his administration, although crime actually declined during the last 36 months of his four-year term, ending a 30 year upward spiral and initiating a trend of falling rates that continued well beyond his term.[2][3] Dinkins also initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%.[4]

Glossed over the Crown Heights Riot, I see. Let's look at a source from that time period:
NY racial tinderbox threatens Dinkins - World, News - The Independent

Dinkins Faces New Criticism In Crown Hts. - The New York Times

News Analysis; Dinkins, the Volume Up In a Speech on Race, the Mayor Responds To Complaint That He Hadn't Said Enough - The New York Times


His race defined his entire time in office.
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