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Old 10-02-2009, 05:44 PM
 
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The SF-SJ-OAK metro is still barely #4.

But we'll get passed next decade by several others.

Too many anti growth enviro Nazis in power here plus the economy sucks even more than the general national economy, and, is way worse than economies of places like TX.

 
Old 10-02-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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I just saw that Cook County has around twice the density of Los Angeles County, but I'm sure there are other ways of going about it.
la csa is denser than chicago overall... la just doesn't have as good of a core.
 
Old 10-02-2009, 05:50 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I just saw that Cook County has around twice the density of Los Angeles County, but I'm sure there are other ways of going about it.
Cook County is only 946 square miles compared to 4,061 sq miles for LA County. LA County includes a lot of mountains and desert that is uninhabited. But if you compare MSA's, LA is much denser than Chicago's overall. CA tends to have really dense suburbs with homes on small lots.
 
Old 10-02-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: 151st Street
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la csa is denser than chicago overall... la just doesn't have as good of a core.
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Cook County is only 946 square miles compared to 4,061 sq miles for LA County. LA County includes a lot of mountains and desert that is uninhabited. But if you compare MSA's, LA is much denser than Chicago's overall. CA tends to have really dense suburbs with homes on small lots.
Well, you learn something new everyday!
 
Old 10-02-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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Why would you compare CSA or MSA's when referring to density?
 
Old 10-03-2009, 09:35 AM
 
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Cook County is only 946 square miles compared to 4,061 sq miles for LA County. LA County includes a lot of mountains and desert that is uninhabited. But if you compare MSA's, LA is much denser than Chicago's overall. CA tends to have really dense suburbs with homes on small lots.
Right, the LA metro area is severely constrained by the ocean and mountains, so density is much more of an issue.

The central areas of Chicagoland with around 5.3 million people are denser on average than what you'd find in LA, but conversely the other 4.5 million people living in the further out suburbs of Chicago are EXTREMELY sprawly.

One kinda offsets the other and visa versa. There is really NO land constraints in Chicago spreading out north, west and south. You can drive over 40 miles now away from the loop to the north, northwest, west, southwest, south and southeast and just find endless built up areas of suburbia.

I don't even venture out more than 10 miles from central Chicago because it's not my cup of tea. I want URBAN URBAN URBAN....that's just my forte though.
 
Old 10-03-2009, 10:11 AM
 
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Right, the LA metro area is severely constrained by the ocean and mountains, so density is much more of an issue.

The central areas of Chicagoland with around 5.3 million people are denser on average than what you'd find in LA, but conversely the other 4.5 million people living in the further out suburbs of Chicago are EXTREMELY sprawly.

One kinda offsets the other and visa versa. There is really NO land constraints in Chicago spreading out north, west and south. You can drive over 40 miles now away from the loop to the north, northwest, west, southwest, south and southeast and just find endless built up areas of suburbia.

I don't even venture out more than 10 miles from central Chicago because it's not my cup of tea. I want URBAN URBAN URBAN....that's just my forte though.
I honestly don't understand why people always compare CSA's or MSA's. I've been to the suburbs maybe 3 or 4 times since I've been in Chicago. If you live in the city, and work in the city, there's no reason to go to the burbs.
 
Old 10-03-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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Why would you compare CSA or MSA's when referring to density?
b/c city limits are not comparable, I think a 50 mile radius would be a good core gauge for other cities than nyc in the u.s. though. Also when comparing gdp or companies...many of those are not in the city anymore. As for judging urbanity, then not so much... the core works better.
 
Old 10-03-2009, 11:36 AM
 
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The near suburbs in Chicago are kind of indistinguishable from the city.
 
Old 10-03-2009, 06:38 PM
 
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yeah going out of west rogers park for instance into the north burbs...they look the same, single family homes, yada yada. then you have oak park on the west which is what 8 miles from the loop and has 2 CTA lines?
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