Pueblo - General Info (Denver, Colorado Springs: big house, elementary school, delivery)

[COcheesehead]

Originally Posted by KerrTown

The relatively flat terrain between Cañon City and Pueblo caught my eye when I was looking at the topographical map of the Front Range. This is a developer's dream, but I'm dumbfounded why Colorado Springs took off!

Colorado DOT really needs to upgrade US-50 to a freeway before it's too late. Has Pueblo thought about annexing Pueblo West? It might be the magic bullet to provide a stable tax and population base for the town to take off.

Colorado Springs had a pandemic of sorts to thank for much of their early growth. TB.
They also had a rich visionary who saw the potential in the tourism possible in the Pikes Peak region.

As for a developer’s dream west of Pueblo, have you been there? No water, no development.

[TCHP]

Pueblo was Colorado's #2 city for nearly 100 years. It was a working class city with a range of industries, farming, and ranching that supported the population. Colo Spgs was where rich or sick people went to pursue leisure activities. It wasn't until after World War 2 when military starting building up in Colo Spgs that it began to grow faster than Pueblo. By the mid 1960s, the decline in the steel industry with the growth in technology is when their paths crossed and Colorado Springs took off and took over the #2 spot.

[Josseppie]

Originally Posted by TCHP

Pueblo was Colorado's #2 city for nearly 100 years. It was a working class city with a range of industries, farming, and ranching that supported the population. Colo Spgs was where rich or sick people went to pursue leisure activities. It wasn't until after World War 2 when military starting building up in Colo Spgs that it began to grow faster than Pueblo. By the mid 1960s, the decline in the steel industry with the growth in technology is when their paths crossed and Colorado Springs took off and took over the #2 spot.

Actually you are off by 2 decades. The post world war decades of the 1950’s and 1960’s saw tremendous growth in Pueblo. The manufacturing collapse that hit in the 80’s caused Pueblo to lose population. We grew again in the 90’s only to stagnate for the last 20 years. Things seem to be changing. I hope so...

[TCHP]

I didn't say it didn't grow, I said Colo Spgs began to grow faster.

Pueblo's post war growth
40-50 22%
50-60 43%
60-70 7%
70-80 4%
80-90 -3%
90-00 3%

Colo Spgs post war growth
40-50 23%
50-60 54%
60-70 93%
70-80 58%
80-90 30%
90-00 28%

Before WW2, Colo Spgs was a place for rich east coasters, gold mine owners, and tuberculosis patients trying to dry out their lungs. The only industries here were artistic endeavors (Cos had more artists than Sante Fe at the time, congruent with the wealth and leisure of the era) and supporting the two rich factions of the local society. Pueblo, on the other hand, was a robust and vibrant community with abroad cross section of immigrants, Americans, and industries. Its just that the steel industry was the 600 pound elephant that everything else revolved around and its demise hurt the city tremendously.

Visiting Pueblo is like a step back to the 70s only with modern technology. Local businesses are still preeminent in the community. The downtown and Riverwalk are comfortable places to spend time. It has many neighborhoods that could offer new home owners or retirees a comfortable place to live. It is full of historic buildings waiting to be rediscovered and repurposed. It just needs to get control of its crime, rampant homerism, and improve its public image and it could take off into new directions never imagined.

[Josseppie]

You’re data backed up what i said.

Pueblo's post war growth
40-50 22%
50-60 43%

Colo Spgs post war growth
40-50 23%
50-60 54%

Pueblo was expected to keep up till the manufacturing collapsed. I was born in 1973 so i know the 80’s first hand.

[McGowdog]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

I might finally get my wish to see Pueblo grow!

Also i renewed my season tickets and am told they are hoping for a full stadium. I hope so because I found out last year if I don’t go to the games I’m not interested in the season.

It was a good season to not be interested, present or not, watching them go to the cellar of the AFC West and all.

The only solace to the last season was to watch the chefs get beat. Watching the Broncos lose to the raiders, chargers and chefs is pretty disgusting. I miss 2015/2016.

[TCHP]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

You’re data backed up what i said.

Pueblo's post war growth
40-50 22%
50-60 43%

Colo Spgs post war growth
40-50 23%
50-60 54%

Pueblo was expected to keep up till the manufacturing collapsed. I was born in 1973 so i know the 80’s first hand.

Joss, I wasn't trying to disprove your statement. I agree with you that Pueblo continued to grow through the 50s and 60s. I was trying to show how I supported my statement that "Cos grew faster than Pueblo after WW2". Its not a case of mutually exclusive facts and both statements can be true at the same time.

[Josseppie]

Originally Posted by TCHP

Joss, I wasn't trying to disprove your statement. I agree with you that Pueblo continued to grow through the 50s and 60s. I was trying to show how I supported my statement that "Cos grew faster than Pueblo after WW2". Its not a case of mutually exclusive facts and both statements can be true at the same time.

I just put that statement into the proper context is all. Colorado springs grew faster then Pueblo after manufacturing collapsed which occurred in all manufacturing towns in the United States.

[CatPeople]

Originally Posted by COcheesehead

Colorado Springs had a pandemic of sorts to thank for much of their early growth. TB.
They also had a rich visionary who saw the potential in the tourism possible in the Pikes Peak region.

As for a developer’s dream west of Pueblo, have you been there? No water, no development.

Pueblo Reservoir is 185 ft. deep, 440,000,000 cubic meters of water.

[Josseppie]

Pueblo has plenty of water. That is not a issue.