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you will have a real struggle finding a Computer Programming job that doesn't have a 2 or 4 year degree requirement
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Originally Posted by Linda_d
I absolutely agree with you. Virtually all programming/coding positions available these days will require a "computer science or related" degree
"59.8 percent of those with software engineer, programmer or computer scientist titles in one study did not carry a CS degree; 36 percent of IT workers do not hold a college degree at all, according to the Economic Policy Institute; 40 percent of programmers on Stack Overflow, one of the largest developer websites, are self-taught; or 14 percent of the members of some teams at Google alone don’t have a college degrees"
Learning one particular area of programming will vastly help any other area of programming. Don't feel like you have to know what your end goal is now to get started. Chances are you won't be using that language in the field anyhow.
I've been using Lua, Java, and C for years now; but just recently, my boss asked me to work on a new project.
You might be correct but in your example, you are already working for the company so not sure if that really applies.
If you were applying at a company with the same programming skills you have now and they wanted a completely different set of programming skills, do you feel they would still hire you, especially over someone that may have all or some of the skills they wanted?
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Originally Posted by Mr.Hospitality
"59.8 percent of those with software engineer, programmer or computer scientist titles in one study did not carry a CS degree; 36 percent of IT workers do not hold a college degree at all, according to the Economic Policy Institute; 40 percent of programmers on Stack Overflow, one of the largest developer websites, are self-taught; or 14 percent of the members of some teams at Google alone don’t have a college degrees"
College degree seems to be coming up as a requirement not because it is really relevant (it isn't) but in the minds of companies and hiring managers, it means a more qualified or more educated candidate which to them is getting a better candidate for their money. It also works are a good excuse to weed out applicants. Realistically though, how applicable a college degree to IT jobs, especially if the degree was not IT related? I spoke to quite a few guys with degrees on IT and not one believed it would have made any difference if they didn't have one. I learned most of my knowledge/skills on the job, a smaller portion of it from a technical school that specialized on computer/networking training. A 1-year course, 5 hours a day, 5 days a week. I initially went to a college but seeing how bloated their program was (85% junk to fill up required units and 15% about Information Technology), I dropped out after one semester. No regrets. If a company is so narrow-minded that they want to proactively eliminate excellent candidates to hire a potential bonehead with a degree, it is their loss as well. Smarter companies often give you a chance by stating "A college degree or 4 years experience in the related field...).
I noticed the trend towards hiring people with degree became more noticeable after the recession. Why?
Because employer's have the upperhand due to more applicants than (good) openings.
I noticed the requirements become more relaxed the less desirable a job is.
Last edited by TurcoLoco; 01-19-2016 at 05:29 PM..
...College degree seems to be coming up as a requirement not because it is really relevant (it isn't) but in the minds of companies and hiring managers, it means a more qualified or more educated candidate...
I can only hire developers with a STEM degree, preferably CS. This isn't corporate policy, it's a customer requirement.
I can only hire developers with a STEM degree, preferably CS. This isn't corporate policy, it's a customer requirement.
That is totally understandable.
My comments were more for those that required a degree regardless of the major and/or if the position really needed/required it for whatever reason.
I'd have no problem obtaining one and spending the time/$ IF it really did matter for my line of work.
Fortunately, candidates with relevant experience and certifications typically prevail, however.
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