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Old 04-29-2015, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Know Nonsense View Post
Most liberal states are losing population. Coincidence? Probably not. Just hope their destructive and entitled mindset does not corrupt wherever it is they move to. That would not be productive change now would it?
Baloney.

There are maybe one or two liberal states that have seen extremely negligible decreases in population (Connecticut and Michigan).

Other than that, there are MANY blue states that are making great gains in population:

Oregon
Washington
Nevada
Vermont
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Florida
Ohio
Virginia
Maryland

And don't give me that crap of "Ohio and Florida aren't blue states." Yes they are. They have been consistently voting Democratic in the past several presidential elections, with most major metropolitan areas in those states being BLUE metro areas.

The real common denominator of your idea that liberal states are losing population is cost of living. You're thinking of states like Connecticut, New York, California, etc. And the cost of living in those states is high because the wages are high, because liberal policies actually WORK.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Baloney.

There are maybe one or two liberal states that have seen extremely negligible decreases in population (Connecticut and Michigan).

Other than that, there are MANY blue states that are making great gains in population:

Oregon
Washington
Nevada
Vermont
New Hampshire
Minnesota
Florida
Ohio
Virginia
Maryland

And don't give me that crap of "Ohio and Florida aren't blue states." Yes they are. They have been consistently voting Democratic in the past several presidential elections, with most major metropolitan areas in those states being BLUE metro areas.

The real common denominator of your idea that liberal states are losing population is cost of living. You're thinking of states like Connecticut, New York, California, etc. And the cost of living in those states is high because the wages are high, because liberal policies actually WORK.
Half those states aren't Blue Nep. Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ress_House.png
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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Surprising, but glad to hear it.
Anecdotally, from the reports I've been seeing, is that wealthier students' (parents) are much more price sensitive for the last few graduating classes nationwide, opting for in state gov't schools as opposed to regional private universities as was the case for a good while. UConn at all campuses and now even the CSU system is hardly thought of as the traditional safety schools, and are first choices for a lot of students.

I mean especially when it comes to CSUs it's a relative bargains, even more so if not living in dorms.
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Old 04-29-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Half those states aren't Blue Nep. Virginia, Florida, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ress_House.png
Wrong. ALL of them are blue:

President Map - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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Wrong. ALL of them are blue:

President Map - Election 2012 - NYTimes.com
You can't just look a single presidential election. Myopic/cherry picking. US House representation (which is also more current) is a much more rigorous proxy. Go fish.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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You can't just look a single presidential election. Myopic/cherry picking. US House representation (which is also more current) is a much more rigorous proxy. Go fish.
Pretty sure all of the states mentioned are swing states.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:38 AM
 
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I am looking to move out of CT, been living here since a baby. I am 28 job's are hard to find,cost of living is too high, and taxes are too high. The weather is a plus though nice weather from May to October. Outdoors may be limited, but there is some great places to hike explore. You are near a range of outdoor area's like the Adirondacks, the Catskills, the Taconics, the President Range, the outdoors of Maine, the beaches of the Cape and Rhode Island. You still have to travel out, but close. Also close to Boston and New York City. Still too congested roads and roads are in poor condition a lot. Utilities are high in the state and neighbors are too close.

Looking to finish up school maybe try to find work down South past Virginia. Thinking of moving to Virginia, South Carolina, Texas, or Clorado. Thinking of New Hampshire I always loved the area. Possibly closer to Boston...Mass...Peabody area near New Hampshire taxes still might be a bit high, but feel the area is a little better then the Connecticut area.
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Anecdotally, from the reports I've been seeing, is that wealthier students' (parents) are much more price sensitive for the last few graduating classes nationwide, opting for in state gov't schools as opposed to regional private universities as was the case for a good while. UConn at all campuses and now even the CSU system is hardly thought of as the traditional safety schools, and are first choices for a lot of students.

I mean especially when it comes to CSUs it's a relative bargains, even more so if not living in dorms.
UConn has not been a safety school in a long time. You are right that both are bargains. UConn is about $25,000 per year (tuition, room, board, fees) while CSU schools are about $20,000. That is a lot better than some private schools which cost more than $45,000. Those schools however are more likely to give merit scholarships though which can bring the price down significantly. Jay
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:33 PM
 
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One of the high schools in Fairfield, so it is more affluent. Jay
Jay, how many years post-graduation is this? Fairfield, like all of the wealthy lower Fairfield County towns, has a general trend where a large majority go out of state for college and post-college (Manhattan is VERY popular, certainly more than 3%) and then come back in their early-30s once married and with kids. I believe this percentage if this is 15 years post-graduation, but know from experience that far more than 3% of Fairfield graduates end up in New York after college.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:42 PM
 
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I believe this percentage if this is 15 years post-graduation, but know from experience that far more than 3% of Fairfield graduates end up in New York after college.
From my personal experience 3% - 5% sounds about right. Most of my graduating class went to Southern, Eastern, Yale, and of course UConn. Some went to Florida, some went to Mass, some California, some DC. After college only a handful of people I know moved down to Manhattan and probably would not have done so if there wasn't significant parental bankrolling. Now, many of the people I went to school with are back from college and are moving en masse to Bridgeport, Norwalk, New Haven, Stamford.
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