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Not that anyone in North Korea has the technology to receive it.
That's been the goal for at least 20 years that I know of--the agencies with that expressed mission have been in open existence that long. But I don't know how close they are to being able to do such things at the drop of a hat.
The bad thing about North Korea is that it's a whole nation like Battlestar Galactica...not enough dependence on IT to seriously harm that way.
Maybe they do, maybe they don't.
Remember than South Korea's technology is right up there with the best in the world, and both Koreas probably have the best spies on the planet for spying on each other.
N. Korea could have lured some savvy S. Korean cubicle workers up north, to lead a life of much more wealth and privilege than they could ever hope for in Seoul.
The North koreans have been messing around with the Japanese internet for some time now, but this hack showed they were good enough to bust into American firewalls. The average worker might not ever have the technology we all enjoy, but that sure doesn't mean their rulers, Generals, and their top echelon techies don't. All the money in a nation that goes only to the top is still a hell of a lot of money, and Jun Ul was educated in Switzerland. He never spent much time in N. Korea until he was an adult and fetched during his father's health began to deteriorate. The kid knows a lot about the west and it's ways, far more than his daddy and grand-daddy ever knew, and he knows what will sting us and what won't.
And so does his little sister. She's next in line if Jun Un's liver blows up on him.
I am coming to think that the next serious war won't be fought with bullets. It will be fought with money and credit. This may have been the shot across our bow. Economic safety and stability in this tightly connected world can no longer be taken for granted.
N. Korea could have lured some savvy S. Korean cubicle workers up north, to lead a life of much more wealth and privilege than they could ever hope for in Seoul.
No, that didn't happen. Kidnapped them, maybe. "Lured," no, didn't happen. Unless one is at the very top of North Korean society--a top Communist official--he won't be anywhere near the living quality of a good IT guy in Seoul. One room of splendor doesn't come close to the difference between Seoul and Pyongyang--and tech-savvy South Korean Millennials love their Internet connectedness as much as American Millennial do.
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The North koreans have been messing around with the Japanese internet for some time now, but this hack showed they were good enough to bust into American firewalls. The average worker might not ever have the technology we all enjoy, but that sure doesn't mean their rulers, Generals, and their top echelon techies don't. All the money in a nation that goes only to the top is still a hell of a lot of money, and Jun Ul was educated in Switzerland. He never spent much time in N. Korea until he was an adult and fetched during his father's health began to deteriorate. The kid knows a lot about the west and it's ways, far more than his daddy and grand-daddy ever knew, and he knows what will sting us and what won't.
And so does his little sister. She's next in line if Jun Un's liver blows up on him.
You're talking about a few senior people watching streaming movies while the rest of their society uses hardwired phone systems and nothing electrical at home except...well, most often nothing. I'm talking about the difference between a society which computer-controlled transportation, communications, electrical grid--an economy that will fall apart if the computers stop working.
I am coming to think that the next serious war won't be fought with bullets. It will be fought with money and credit. This may have been the shot across our bow. Economic safety and stability in this tightly connected world can no longer be taken for granted.
That's true enough, for countries that depend on trade and economics based on digital wealth.
no, we beat ourselfs. terrorists are only as powerful as we make them out to be.
We gave the terrorist power? We get attacked on 09/11/01 in a way that can only be described as an act of war. The hacktivists released data and for the most part it was harmless except for the personal data getting released (credit card numbers, health records, social security numbers, etc.) There wasn't anything really bad until they invoked the fear and images another 09/11/01. I don't know about you but I grew up on Long Island and regularly went upstate as a kid. I went upstate the weekend before 9/11 and the weekend (and saw it in the distance from the T-Neck bridge) after the travel ban was lifted about an entire week after. That weekend, there was STILL soot and debris coming up into the air and polluting it. The skyline looked like it was filtered in death smoke.
Now I don't know about you but most people probably crapped their pants when they heard that threat even if it is a veiled threat. Over 72 hours ago, I had the same logic that we shouldn't let them control us but now as time has gone on, I am thinking more level headed and sadly Sony and the theaters who canceled the showings before the Sony pull, they did things right. They thought of people's safety even if they weren't planning on seeing the movie over profits from those who wanted to see the movie.
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Coming from someone who writes about internet security topics frequently...
You're way behind. The Russian mob and other cyber criminals launch hack attacks on our banks and other financial targets constantly. Most don't make it in because banks have been dealing with this type of thing for decades. Why do you think hackers have moved to targeting the comparatively less experienced and less secure retail industry?
It's impossible to completely protect a large computer network with many points of entry, but to say nothing much has been done is completely false. And don't read too much about the Sony hack into attacks on government targets. Sony's IT department is apparently staffed by a bunch of idiots.
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They apparently stored thousands of unencrypted passwords in Excel spreadsheets located in a folder named "Password." I'd say they're just idiots either way.
Thought popped in my mind after taking time to think about this. While it is entirely possible, maybe even likely, this was North Korea there is the slight possibility it could have been a third party.
This isn't some hack (no pun intended) conspiracy theory but based on previous events. The US has not been above accusing other countries of acts of aggression only to find out either they were responsible or the excuse for war was based on lies (WMD anyone?).
While North Korea's calling for a joint probe into this could very well be a way to cover their butts so they are not exposed as the woefully powerless petulant child they are it would not be so shocking some third party or hacker group used that movie to stir up tensions just for the hell of it or the US using this to rally other nations against North Korea which it's already doing with China, Japan, South Korea, Russia, etc.
Just saying... american's have been here before and rushed to judgement with egg on our face, after thinking about it more I think I will reserve my judgement until later.
Thought popped in my mind after taking time to think about this. While it is entirely possible, maybe even likely, this was North Korea there is the slight possibility it could have been a third party...
...Just saying... american's have been here before and rushed to judgement with egg on our face, after thinking about it more I think I will reserve my judgement until later.
North Korea has now denied that they have had any involvement, proof that they did it.
Sony probably pulled it, not because they are scared of bombings, but getting sued into submission by victims families for NOT pulling the picture due to the threat.
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