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Old 09-01-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: South Jersey
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I hope you have eyes in the back of your head with all your backpeddling.
What backpedaling? I was addressing your straw man arguments.

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And I always love the favorite cop out, "blacks crime rate is higher". I just got on Facebook and saw two stories about whites committing crimes. 5 white boys charged in a home invasion and 80 white people arrested for welfare/food stamp fraud.
This point would only be relevant if the claim were that whites never did these things.

And how is the black crime rate being higher a "cop out"? Do you dispute that it's higher? Do you think individual incidents are somehow of greater importance than the overall trend? Do you think it's unimportant that the black crime rate is higher as long as whites commit the same crimes, albeit at a lesser rate?

I love how "white boy" is considered acceptable terminology. I don't think the same sort of thing would be considered PC if it were applied to black males. Double standard? Yeah, there are a lot of those...
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Check out the statistics, most crimes are committed by LEGAL guns
Exactly so … indicating that guns and ammo are far too easily readily available to nearly everybody ...
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Many of my family is currently in or near Fox Lake, IL where the shooting occurred. Two of my cousins are on lock down at the high school, another cousin is in lock down at the library. My mom was in lock down in a church, but is home now.

My Aunt and Uncle who live within 1/4 mile of where the shooting took place are holed up in the house. My Uncle told me there are FBI/police in the streets and helicopters overhead and he's ready with his rifle to defend his family. I am afraid for them but am thankful my uncle has the right and the means to defend his precious family. I hope many others are capable of this defense as they look for the armed, murderous fugitives who are at large in their community.

I am about 40 minutes away but heard rumors the fugitives could head south towards the forest preserve in my back yard. I have 3 kids at home, gun in the safe, and am trained on how to use it. It has never been clearer to me than today just how important my gun rights are.

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Old 09-01-2015, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Rest in peace G.I. Joe...

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Old 09-01-2015, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Maybe the DOJ will send someone out to investigate....ooops sorry forgot... that's only when the criminals get shot.
And maybe representatives from the White House will go to the funeral. Oh, sorry, that's only when street thugs get shot.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:46 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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So what "sensible legal-regulatory measures" do you want that aren't already in effect in many places?
Just curious.
And still hearing only crickets on this question, really not surprised at all.

The only thing some can parrot is "sensible legal-regulatory measures" just like the meme "comprehensive reform".
No clue what they are, just an easy to read bumper sticker...
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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What backpedaling? I was addressing your straw man arguments.

This point would only be relevant if the claim were that whites never did these things.

And how is the black crime rate being higher a "cop out"? Do you dispute that it's higher? Do you think individual incidents are somehow of greater importance than the overall trend? Do you think it's unimportant that the black crime rate is higher as long as whites commit the same crimes, albeit at a lesser rate?

I love how "white boy" is considered acceptable terminology. I don't think the same sort of thing would be considered PC if it were applied to black males. Double standard? Yeah, there are a lot of those...
It's not a straw man, it's a fact. You started the thread about the Harris County officer here but couldn't be found in the thread about the Louisiana trooper. What's the difference? An act of cowardice towards a police offer, so what's the difference?

Pretty ironic statement there. If you actually paid any attention to the actual BLM movement, they are perfectly aware of black on black crime, and many are doing what they can to work on those issues. But in your little tiny bubble, you don't hear about it or care to hear about it, so you make assumptions. And you know what they say about making an assumption. Expect it doesn't make one out of me.

What do you think the MSM is going to talk about? A black church mentoring and tutoring young black males in their community or a group of blacks, claiming to be apart of the BLM movement, threatening the lives of white cops? You buy right into what they're selling.

No one has said black crime rate isn't important, it's when people hide behind it to stereotype an entire race of people is when it becomes a problem.

I said white boys, because they were boys who were white. A couple of them were minors. Yeah, my bad for referring to a minor as a 'boy'.

But, hey, deflect from the actual point I was making.
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:06 PM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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That "Whoosh" sound was the point going over your head.
If the handiest tool is unavailable, the second handiest tool
will get the job done. The issue is violence, not tools.
What would be the next-handiest tool for killing a bunch of theater patrons, if a person was inclined toward mass murder? Just curious.
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: mancos
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What would be the next-handiest tool for killing a bunch of theater patrons, if a person was inclined toward mass murder? Just curious.
Making plans?
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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What would be the next-handiest tool for killing a bunch of theater patrons, if a person was inclined toward mass murder? Just curious.

It's frighteningly easy to make an effective bomb, for one.

Theater killer, Holmes, had his apartment rigged with home
made bombs. If that had gone off, there would have been a far
greater loss of life. They said the whole building would have gone.
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