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Ok, lets say the concept of arresting a child for a minor crime is somehow acceptable. How many 10 yo kids being arrested today will understand that it is for something they did a year ago? How is it you think they make that association when they probably don't remember what they had for lunch three days ago.
I don't call physical assault of an adult a minor crime. He could hurt someone seriously. That is not behavior that is acceptable in civilized society. He wasn't taught this at home.
This is called "learning that actions have consequences." I bet he remembers this the next time he goes to kick an adult hard.
No excuses. It is arguable that all violent kids have mental issues. That's no excuse. It's BEHAVIOR that matters to others.
This may be the result of parents who insist that their specially challenged kids be allowed to attend school with non-challenged kids. They may need to be schooled "specially," by people who are trained to deal with kids with "challenges."
He should now be going through anger management. If he isn't, we may be reading about him years from now, as the shooter in a road rage incident.
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Whoever diagnosed Asperger's last year was not using the DSM-5, but the DSM-4. Asperger's is currently under the ASD diagnosis. The DSM-5 text states “ Individuals with a well-established DSM-IV diagnoses of autistic disorder, Asperger's disorder, or pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified should be given the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder”.
I don't call physical assault of an adult a minor crime. He could hurt someone seriously. That is not behavior that is acceptable in civilized society. He wasn't taught this at home.
This is called "learning that actions have consequences." I bet he remembers this the next time he goes to kick an adult hard.
No excuses. It is arguable that all violent kids have mental issues. That's no excuse. It's BEHAVIOR that matters to others.
This may be the result of parents who insist that their specially challenged kids be allowed to attend school with non-challenged kids. They may need to be schooled "specially," by people who are trained to deal with kids with "challenges."
He should now be going through anger management. If he isn't, we may be reading about him years from now, as the shooter in a road rage incident.
Each autistic child is different, but the kicking in this incident happened in school with a paraprofessional who (hopefully) was trained to deal with it properly.
This particular paraprofessional, though, was accused by the boy of hurting him.
Note that when an autistic child does kick or hit, the reaction should be one of moving out of his range of motion and/or protecting himself with his own hands or arms. After he has successfully prevented injury to himself, he can guide him to engage in the appropriate task. It is very important that the adult not react to the child with exaggerated body movement or with a change in facial expression. Arranging the environment so that the child has fewer opportunities to hit is advisable; strategies include staying within an arm’s length of him, keeping him seated at a table for instruction, teaching from across the table outside his range of motion, and teaching from a standing position while he is seated. These techniques provide an adult the safest manner to avoid injury from hitting behavior without needing to physically intervene.
An FBA (functional behavioral analysis) should have been done so that the function of his aggressive behavior was known and a behavior plan should have been put in place to prevent the aggression. Praise and rewards when he was not being aggressive would be appropriate.
The basics are:
1. Understand why is the behaviour occurring
2. Work on more appropriate ways of communicating - this needs to be done both at home and at school - even if this child is verbal - a picture schedule or pecs or a communication device may be necessary especially when dealing with emotions.
3. Be Careful with the language you use (tell the child what to do rather than what not to do)
4. Helping him move on (kids with autism often have difficulty moving on from what upset them)
5. Be consistent
6. Acknowledge and deal with his emotions (this is very important and needs to be done both in school and at home - there are many ways of doing this, but it may need to be at a lower level than his age would have you believe).
7. Calm first… teach second - a child even an NT child cannot learn when his emotions are out of control, so we need techniques that help him calm down - it may be as simple has having a safe space for him to go to so he can calm himself - it may be much more complicated - special music, a comfort object, etc.
Each autistic child is different, but the kicking in this incident happened in school with a paraprofessional who (hopefully) was trained to deal with it properly.
This particular paraprofessional, though, was accused by the boy of hurting him.
Note that when an autistic child does kick or hit, the reaction should be one of moving out of his range of motion and/or protecting himself with his own hands or arms. After he has successfully prevented injury to himself, he can guide him to engage in the appropriate task. It is very important that the adult not react to the child with exaggerated body movement or with a change in facial expression. Arranging the environment so that the child has fewer opportunities to hit is advisable; strategies include staying within an arm’s length of him, keeping him seated at a table for instruction, teaching from across the table outside his range of motion, and teaching from a standing position while he is seated. These techniques provide an adult the safest manner to avoid injury from hitting behavior without needing to physically intervene.
An FBA (functional behavioral analysis) should have been done so that the function of his aggressive behavior was known and a behavior plan should have been put in place to prevent the aggression. Praise and rewards when he was not being aggressive would be appropriate.
The basics are:
1. Understand why is the behaviour occurring
2. Work on more appropriate ways of communicating - this needs to be done both at home and at school - even if this child is verbal - a picture schedule or pecs or a communication device may be necessary especially when dealing with emotions.
3. Be Careful with the language you use (tell the child what to do rather than what not to do)
4. Helping him move on (kids with autism often have difficulty moving on from what upset them)
5. Be consistent
6. Acknowledge and deal with his emotions (this is very important and needs to be done both in school and at home - there are many ways of doing this, but it may need to be at a lower level than his age would have you believe).
7. Calm first… teach second - a child even an NT child cannot learn when his emotions are out of control, so we need techniques that help him calm down - it may be as simple has having a safe space for him to go to so he can calm himself - it may be much more complicated - special music, a comfort object, etc.
The lack of understanding on this tread is appalling. I never thought much about Autism awareness month but now I totally get it. There is a lot of work to do. Thank you for sharing an educated look into helping autistic kids.
So a child cannot assult another child if they are both in a special school? In the article it said that he was allowed back into thecschool from home schooling because they thought he would be able to fit in but he was arrested and handcuffed. He was arrested for something he did a year ago so why not , as his mother asked, and picked him up at home with his parents? Are the police even allowed to question him without a parent present. He is a ten year old not a middle aged adult and was currently not a danger to anyone he was with. How many children get arrested in school in front of their classmates for what they had done the previous year. Poor policing in this case.
It appears that the mother and child were asked to come into the school for some reason and when they arrived, the police were there to arrest him. That's what we know so far.
Seems like we are missing something. IF this is true then the school is just stupid for having a role in arresting this 10 year old special needs boy. It is a school that specializes in special needs, no?
The police surely have Google like the rest of us and could have shown up at the house.
Sounds like the keystone cops again. They arrested a 10 year old boy who's probably never been away from his mother AND they kept him overnight for an incident that happened one year prior.
Ok.
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Originally Posted by clearlevel
So, if every criminal was with autism, nobody would ever be punished? It doesn't matter what condition they have, people should get the same consequences.
See, he's 10. We're not talking about an adult or even a teen-ager. That's relevant, no?
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Originally Posted by Unsettomati
Do they have a special Autism Task Force for that?
Look at him! The brute must be at least four feet tall, and I bet he weighs a good 75 pounds! How they were able to subdue him without tazers, a police dog, and riot gear is beyond me! Thank God he didn't kill anyone with his bare hands before they took him down!
Is that not the most ridiculous thing you have ever seen? And they kept him overnight - can you imagine how terrified he was?
Suddenly, the school has no wish to comment. I wonder why. Stupid idiots!
Each autistic child is different, but the kicking in this incident happened in school with a paraprofessional who (hopefully) was trained to deal with it properly.
This particular paraprofessional, though, was accused by the boy of hurting him.
Note that when an autistic child does kick or hit, the reaction should be one of moving out of his range of motion and/or protecting himself with his own hands or arms. After he has successfully prevented injury to himself, he can guide him to engage in the appropriate task. It is very important that the adult not react to the child with exaggerated body movement or with a change in facial expression. Arranging the environment so that the child has fewer opportunities to hit is advisable; strategies include staying within an arm’s length of him, keeping him seated at a table for instruction, teaching from across the table outside his range of motion, and teaching from a standing position while he is seated. These techniques provide an adult the safest manner to avoid injury from hitting behavior without needing to physically intervene.
An FBA (functional behavioral analysis) should have been done so that the function of his aggressive behavior was known and a behavior plan should have been put in place to prevent the aggression. Praise and rewards when he was not being aggressive would be appropriate.
The basics are:
1. Understand why is the behaviour occurring
2. Work on more appropriate ways of communicating - this needs to be done both at home and at school - even if this child is verbal - a picture schedule or pecs or a communication device may be necessary especially when dealing with emotions.
3. Be Careful with the language you use (tell the child what to do rather than what not to do)
4. Helping him move on (kids with autism often have difficulty moving on from what upset them)
5. Be consistent
6. Acknowledge and deal with his emotions (this is very important and needs to be done both in school and at home - there are many ways of doing this, but it may need to be at a lower level than his age would have you believe).
7. Calm first… teach second - a child even an NT child cannot learn when his emotions are out of control, so we need techniques that help him calm down - it may be as simple has having a safe space for him to go to so he can calm himself - it may be much more complicated - special music, a comfort object, etc.
Resources available in more rural Florida school districts are pathetic. Many children with ASD and aggressive behaviors end up in hospital homebound because schools don't want to deal with their behaviors. They don't have trained behavior analysts on staff. As a whole, the state really does not have enough behavior analysts. There are often waitlists for the behavior analysts that are available outside the school system. Schools make things worse by doing things like fully restraining mobile children in the bus for the duration of every ride as if they are prisoners, etc. The behavior plan needs to be implemented at home and in school, so if the provider can't be found for at home, that's going to make it much harder in the school setting.
Paraprofessionals can still be seriously injured through aggressive behaviors. I had a coworker who used to be a paraprofessional and she ended up quitting when a student kicked her with a steel-toed boot. I think she had to go to the ER. She was not a small woman by any means. Sometimes behaviors still get too intense that even trained staff might have difficulty with a particular individual.
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