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Do they have a special Autism Task Force for that?
Look at him! The brute must be at least four feet tall, and I bet he weighs a good 75 pounds! How they were able to subdue him without tazers, a police dog, and riot gear is beyond me! Thank God he didn't kill anyone with his bare hands before they took him down!
Thats what is supposed to happen when the cops take someone into custody. They patted him down. Then they cuffed and stuffed...I mean put handcuffs on him and placed him in the back of a cruiser. It was by their book and done in a way to ensure the safety of all those involved. When they go off book and do things differently and are rougher or softer with others is when things tend to go awry.
All the crying over when and where they took him it is silly too. They *could* have done it at his house or called the mom first but they didnt HAVE to.
So it comes down to the events that led up to this and where the blame and the figuring it all out should go. To the school, the teachers and the parents. They need to figure out how they failed this child. But assault and being arrested doesnt have to be figured out. Thats cut and dried.
She'd be one of those mothers excusing his DWI that kills someone else, or the mother of a man who hits someone in the head with a baseball bat, saying "He has problems. He has autism!"
He was arrested because he physically assaulted someone. That it was in front of his schoolmates, so what? Did he assault that teacher in front of others?
Having autism is not an excuse for physical violence. If he can't behave normally, he needs to be put into a school that deals with challenged kids.
No...the school is required in many cases to hire professionals who are trained in handling a broad spectrum of kids - autism clearly falls within that. The kids is not psychotic! The point is that these teachers are supposed to be trained in how to handle different sensory, mental, and behavioral issues...instead, the minute ANYTHING happens out of the ordinary the police get called. And the police have NO training in how to deal with kids or how to de-escalate a situation. So the worst possible outcome occurs in a situation that could easily have been handled if the school fulfilled their responsibility instead of palming it off.
And the police have NO training in how to deal with kids or how to de-escalate a situation. So the worst possible outcome occurs in a situation that could easily have been handled if the school fulfilled their responsibility instead of palming it off.
Police aren't trained to deescalate, but teachers are? Lets really think about that for a minute...when they get older and bigger than the teacher, who will be more likely be trained in handling a difficult or dangerous situation?
The teacher can only do so much when there are other kids in the classroom, would she like 30 witnesses who tell their parents the teacher put her hands on jimmy, got him in a secure hold, and dragged him out of the classroom kicking?
As I mentioned upthread, Florida has a shortage of behavior analysts. There aren't enough in the schools or in the community. Even people who are caring might not have the resources to go to the bigger cities for treatment if they are in more rural areas as this child was. The rural areas have it the absolute worst.
It's only been fairly recently that behavior analysis has been accepted for treatment payment (under the ACA) for insurance and in FL, Medicaid also just picked it up in around 2011 or so as not being "experimental". However, the rates are now just being increased to try to help the severe shortage for people who might not be able to get therapy through private insurance.
I'm not referring to specialists and Behavior Analysts. Living in a rural environment is not an excuse to not recognize behavior / mental / learning issues in your own child growing up, before kindergarten even.
Why wait for the school to act? Why wait for specialists to move to your area?
I'm a mother who raised a child in a very rural area. I remember more than one occasion driving to the ER 60 miles away during a snow storm. That was my duty, where I lived was not her choice. I had an entire library of resource materials I studied. If I had a question I called someone or went to the library, I couldn't always even count on dial-up in my area.
If there was an issue, I couldn't wait for the insurance company to decipher whether or not it was going to be an acceptable office visit or symptom or syndrome. There's no excuse for not taking responsibility if you choose to raise a child, it's a very important job, one that will have an effect on society.
If one doesn't have access to specialists, they confer with a doctor or nurse. There are educated and knowledgeable people with suggestions and contacts: County nurses, social workers. If there is no access to internet, go to the library, use a phone. If one cannot read and write, ask a neighbor. If you have no car you'll have to walk or hitch hike. Who just watches for 10 years and then looks to blame others?
No...the school is required in many cases to hire professionals who are trained in handling a broad spectrum of kids - autism clearly falls within that. The kids is not psychotic! The point is that these teachers are supposed to be trained in how to handle different sensory, mental, and behavioral issues...instead, the minute ANYTHING happens out of the ordinary the police get called. And the police have NO training in how to deal with kids or how to de-escalate a situation. So the worst possible outcome occurs in a situation that could easily have been handled if the school fulfilled their responsibility instead of palming it off.
First of all, police receive EXTENSIVE training in de-escalation. FAR more than teachers do.
Also, doesn't it strike you as odd that the mom is standing there taking video? There's something VERY odd about that scenario.
I've got $100 says this mom is one of those moms who excuses any and all of her child's bad behavior. Somebody has to do something.
No...the school is required in many cases to hire professionals who are trained in handling a broad spectrum of kids - autism clearly falls within that. The kids is not psychotic! The point is that these teachers are supposed to be trained in how to handle different sensory, mental, and behavioral issues...instead, the minute ANYTHING happens out of the ordinary the police get called. And the police have NO training in how to deal with kids or how to de-escalate a situation. So the worst possible outcome occurs in a situation that could easily have been handled if the school fulfilled their responsibility instead of palming it off.
Yes I was an aide in a public school for many years in what is called a self contained classroom. I am very familiar with children with autism, Down syndrome and the like. And I've seen it all. That's why this thread caught my attention. We were all trained very well in the care of these children, and we did a very good job. We knew their triggers, and we were on it in a moments time.
I guess not everyone can be around these kids by reading some of these posts. They were never left without an adult with them ever. We were a team, and a good one at that. I loved my job. I'm retired now.
call me "sick" , but if a kid gets violent and his mother plays the " autism card, he does not belong in a public school with other kids.
Does the school district exempt her from paying school taxes?
About 15 years ago, Klein ISD in the Houston suburbs had a similar incident. A 9 yo on the spectrum boy was in a meltdown, thrashing around. His overworked and undertrained teacher called the school district police. They threw face down on the floor, tie wrapped his hands behind him, the kid wet himself. He stayed that way until his mom got there.
Florida is as bad as Texas. A kid I know had read every book in the building by 2nd. grade. He got bored and decided to go home. His mom went to pick him up after school and he wasn't there. The teacher had not missed him. The second time that happened he was out of there. He took all things completely literally, we had to be very careful how we worded everything that came out of our mouths. He could not read any body language. Mr. Bean helped that. So did the shadow teacher.
Mainstreaming kids with serious learning issues is cruel if the school is not prepared to educate to the best of the student's ability.
My friend ask for not one thin dime of money from Florida. The alternative school that took the kid gets not one cent tax money from Florida. The did a good job. He made a perfect score on his SAT and was accepted at a prestigious school, fully funded. But between 8 and 18. the parents devoted all their time to learning and guiding the kid.
IMO, it must be something in the water, or this plastic world we live in.
I'm not referring to specialists and Behavior Analysts. Living in a rural environment is not an excuse to not recognize behavior / mental / learning issues in your own child growing up, before kindergarten even.
Why wait for the school to act? Why wait for specialists to move to your area?
I'm a mother who raised a child in a very rural area. I remember more than one occasion driving to the ER 60 miles away during a snow storm. That was my duty, where I lived was not her choice. I had an entire library of resource materials I studied. If I had a question I called someone or went to the library, I couldn't always even count on dial-up in my area.
If there was an issue, I couldn't wait for the insurance company to decipher whether or not it was going to be an acceptable office visit or symptom or syndrome. There's no excuse for not taking responsibility if you choose to raise a child, it's a very important job, one that will have an effect on society.
If one doesn't have access to specialists, they confer with a doctor or nurse. There are educated and knowledgeable people with suggestions and contacts: County nurses, social workers. If there is no access to internet, go to the library, use a phone. If one cannot read and write, ask a neighbor. If you have no car you'll have to walk or hitch hike. Who just watches for 10 years and then looks to blame others?
IMO
These days, pretty much everyone I know. It's sickening. It's disgusting. It's what America has become.
He doesn't belong in public school? Ummmm....its called the law. He has every right to a public education. If the school cant manage him, they have to make other accommodations for him. I think sick is the right word for someone so callus to think this kid should have been arrested...and "the autism card". Seriously?
The school also has to consider what is the least restrictive environment appropriate for his limitations. For some children a mainstream classroom headed by a teacher without a degree or certification in Special Education and experience handling difficult behavior is not the most appropriate setting.
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