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Old 03-14-2020, 11:06 PM
 
Location: SLC
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Does anyone have a link providing the type 1 and type 2 errors in the Covid-19 testing? It seems that there are different types of tests and I am wondering about the type 1 and type 2 error comparison among them.
I never got a response on this. Now, there are reports of a Japanese man testing positive for the second time, after having been cleared. And, Japanese hospitals use 2 negative test to rule out the infection. So, he had 2 negatives at the beginning of March and now a positive again.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200315_13/

So, either this is a case of false negative(s) or something more. Would like a scientific response.
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Old 03-15-2020, 12:34 AM
 
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This must be one of the most absurd threads in existence known to man. I have never seen so much misinformation, people posing as pseudo experts, people posing as knowledgeable, people believing the aforementioned people as if they are knowledgeable, and ridiculous statements.

And the complete absurdity of calling this thread 'The Coronavirus Science Thread' when it is anything but that.
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:03 AM
 
Location: New England
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They make all this fancy graphs and maps to show Coronavirus cases but what about influenza? Have we completely ignored it?

https://www.worldometers.info/

Quick facts:
Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses.

This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.

98,474 Seasonal flu deaths this year

We keep thinking coronavirus is the biggest killer. It hasn't caught up with the regular flu. I wonder how many people actually have the regular flu and causing the hospitals to mistaken them for coronavirus.

Yes, we should still be careful not to catch any flu but let's put things in perspective too.
I've been watching the worldometer for a while. Today was the first day I have seen the number of cases drop and the number of critical cases dropped 2%.

Yesterday, I read a NY Times article from December about Italian factories in Northern Italy now being run by Chinese firms with 100K Chinese workers from Wuhan plus other Chinese regions. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/b...far-right.html

Here is another article that is recent which has some of the same information. https://www.altnewsmedia.net/news/co...ive-why-italy/

I'm not much for buying the hype this is a pandemic, nor is my wife who works in the medical field. We all have to live with the fallout that comes from decisions made by government for our own good......
My favorite saying by Napoleon Hill "The things we fear the most never actually happen"
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:35 AM
 
Location: SLC
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It is an excellent thread that is being corrupted by the doubters. I request that those who think they know better start their own thread and stop corrupting this thread which is about the Coronavirus science. If you don’t believe it is a threat - please, please start a new thread on that premise.
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Old 03-15-2020, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19)




I have no idea how accurate or scientific this is, but is an interesting read.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:17 AM
 
Location: SLC
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An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19)




I have no idea how accurate or scientific this is, but is an interesting read.
If you go to the first page of this thread - there is a post from Larry Caldwell that talks about this. The MEDCRAM YouTube series in that link has further discussion on this in a later video.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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If you go to the first page of this thread - there is a post from Larry Caldwell that talks about this. The MEDCRAM YouTube series in that link has further discussion on this in a later video.

Thanks. I will check that out!

(The thread was really long, and I hadn't had a chance to read back yet.)
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:44 AM
 
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It is an excellent thread that is being corrupted by the doubters. I request that those who think they know better start their own thread and stop corrupting this thread which is about the Coronavirus science. If you don’t believe it is a threat - please, please start a new thread on that premise.
Thank you. Well said. Denial is a fear mechanism. It is not helpful. The science of covid-19 is developing, and so by definition information will be preliminary.
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Old 03-15-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Thank you. Well said. Denial is a fear mechanism. It is not helpful. The science of covid-19 is developing, and so by definition information will be preliminary.

Denial feeds the reactionary panic rebound effect. Very small investments in time and money can have huge returns. Over investment of course leads to diminishing returns , but where that is variable to the individual. For a billionaire a bugout bunker is probably like a protein bar for a poor person. I like to plan for mistakes in my calculations. Someone who "overstocked" by having 6 months on hand may have miscalculated friends and family. That could easily become a 1 month supply depending on how willing one is to share resources. I probably could rush to the store , because I am not in a huge hot spot. However I already slowly accumulated.
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Old 03-15-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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I've been watching the worldometer for a while. Today was the first day I have seen the number of cases drop and the number of critical cases dropped 2%.

Yesterday, I read a NY Times article from December about Italian factories in Northern Italy now being run by Chinese firms with 100K Chinese workers from Wuhan plus other Chinese regions. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/b...far-right.html

Here is another article that is recent which has some of the same information. https://www.altnewsmedia.net/news/co...ive-why-italy/

I'm not much for buying the hype this is a pandemic, nor is my wife who works in the medical field. We all have to live with the fallout that comes from decisions made by government for our own good......
My favorite saying by Napoleon Hill "The things we fear the most never actually happen"



The rates are dropping because people are acting to control it. I have said it many times here and elsewhere. You will benefit from the actions of the very people you mock. Italy happened because of people like you. It will not happen much more because of people very much not like you. If you see no reason to pay an mention to it then why are you here? Go some old poor, Kobe thread like everyone else was in January while they ignored the incipient time of this mess.






For 3,000 people the US engaged in several wars. Now we have 6,000+ dead and all ya have to do is sit home and watch TV to beat this thing. Oh the horror and sacrifice...
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