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Old 03-16-2020, 07:18 PM
 
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I just got off a chat with work buddy. We discuss the possibility that even with a vaccine. We are not out of the woods. In order for a vaccine to be effective, you need a full scale inoculation and the body has to have mature antibodies before you can become safe from the virus. It doesn't mean you won't get sick from the virus, it just means that you can recover quicker or ward it off if you are healthy. For people who have underlying issues such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, even with the vaccine. You are not safe until the virus is no longer a public threat.

It will require a good period of isolation for the virus to become widely eradicated from being circulated in public. It may take more than a year of our current isolation protocols to do that.

until/unless there IS a vaccine.. We can't know much. While the Flu vaccine works in the way you stated.. Many other vaccines are fully effective. Noone gets a 'mild' case of Polio.. Or Chicken Pox.. Or Hepatitis.. Or Measles.. After getting the vaccine.

Now, if you're saying that if everyone were vaccinated now, how long until that vaccine 'takes'.. That I'm more on-board with. Because, obviously, yes.. If someone shoots you up with the measles vaccine AND measles at the same time.. You're not safe. But.. The body is pretty damn efficient.. I'd guess 2 weeks to develop full immunity is pretty average.
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51921403

This is interesting. Our bodies fight off covid-19 the way it fights off flu.

This is a short, non-technical article.
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Old 03-17-2020, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51921403

This is interesting. Our bodies fight off covid-19 the way it fights off flu.

This is a short, non-technical article.
This is my post in another thread to answer this question. Coronavirus is basically cold virus on steroids. It can multiply much quicker than regular cold and it can hide from white T cells for a long time before the immune system realizes it's an intruder. It's able to disguise itself from well and then once it attaches it's RNA into your receptors then it will start reproducing.

While the 1st batch of Coronavirus may get wiped out by White T Cells, the victim feels fine after the initial cold symptoms. As the RNA start to mutate your healthy cell into copies, it takes a few days for it to colonize your healthy cells and suddenly you get severe flu symptoms. This is usually happening within your lungs and throat.

A lot of people die from complications of the flu and their own underlying problems. Most people do recover, the media only seem to cover those have had a tough bout with the virus but very few cases of successful recoveries being shown.

Since the virus stays dormant for awhile as it reproduces. It start to overwhelm you and put a lot of pressure on your heart which must pump harder to get more oxygen to your brain.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...infection.html

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This guidance provides recommendations on the cleaning and disinfection of households where persons under investigation (PUI) or those with confirmed COVID-19 reside or may be in self-isolation. It is aimed at limiting the survival of the virus in the environments. These recommendations will be updated if additional information becomes available.

These guidelines are focused on household settings and are meant for the general public.

Cleaning refers to the removal of germs, dirt, and impurities from surfaces. Cleaning does not kill germs, but by removing them, it lowers their numbers and the risk of spreading infection.
Disinfecting refers to using chemicals to kill germs on surfaces. This process does not necessarily clean dirty surfaces or remove germs, but by killing germs on a surface after cleaning, it can further lower the risk of spreading infection.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:07 PM
 
Location: NYC
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I don't think you should become like obsessed with cleaning everywhere. Just keep the most high traffic contact places clean like the door knobs, keyboard, mouse, table, smartphone, etc.

There's no point keeping everything cleaned since this isn't the hospital, you're not performing surgery. Let other germs and microbes fight it out with the viruses.
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Old 03-17-2020, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Not the best source of info, but interesting:

People with blood type A might be more susceptible to coronavirus, study finds

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/people...s-study-finds/
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Old 03-17-2020, 08:22 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Not the best source of info, but interesting:

People with blood type A might be more susceptible to coronavirus, study finds

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/people...s-study-finds/
I don't buy it, the sample size is too small. Type O folks still die so it doesn't prove one blood type is more resistant. There's no breakdown of age, factors, and risk group.

The better determination factor is age and risk group.
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Old 03-17-2020, 10:31 PM
 
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Default Coronavirus 2020 Outbreak: Latest Updates By WebMD News Staff

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...nBEOjmDKZdk%3d
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Old 03-18-2020, 08:27 AM
 
Location: SLC
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Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID19 mortality and healthcare demand

Neil M Ferguson, Daniel Laydon, Gemma Nedjati-Gilani, Natsuko Imai, Kylie Ainslie, Marc Baguelin,
Sangeeta Bhatia, Adhiratha Boonyasiri, Zulma Cucunubá, Gina Cuomo-Dannenburg, Amy Dighe, Ilaria
Dorigatti, Han Fu, Katy Gaythorpe, Will Green, Arran Hamlet, Wes Hinsley, Lucy C Okell, Sabine van
Elsland, Hayley Thompson, Robert Verity, Erik Volz, Haowei Wang, Yuanrong Wang, Patrick GT Walker,
Caroline Walters, Peter Winskill, Charles Whittaker, Christl A Donnelly, Steven Riley, Azra C Ghani.
On behalf of the Imperial College COVID-19 Response Team
WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Modelling
MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis
Abdul Latif Jameel Institute for Disease and Emergency Analytics
Imperial College London

"...jaw-dropping numbers from some of Britain’s top modelers of infectious disease, who predicted the deadly course of the coronavirus could quickly kill hundreds of thousands in both the United Kingdom and the United States, as surges of sick and dying patients overwhelmed hospitals and critical care units.


https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imp...16-03-2020.pdf
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Old 03-18-2020, 10:21 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I don't think you should become like obsessed with cleaning everywhere. Just keep the most high traffic contact places clean like the door knobs, keyboard, mouse, table, smartphone, etc.

There's no point keeping everything cleaned since this isn't the hospital, you're not performing surgery. Let other germs and microbes fight it out with the viruses.
my place of work insisted that we even wipe down our monitors
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