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Old 07-17-2020, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I know that one of the hardest-hit zip codes in Dallas County is south of 30 in a poor area. I wonder if areas where the community is primarily made up of "essential" workers. People who work in grocery stores, construction, and restaurants are directly affected and may live in lower-income areas that are hard hit.

Also, I believe the zip code I mentioned has a large immigrant population who doesn't know English. They may not be watching the news since it's in English. I know that Dallas has been sending out community representatives to educate residents of COVID-19.

Lastly, the 20-30's population is the age group that has been seeing an increase in cases whereas, the older age groups have seen a drop. So, it's also possible the Uptown crowd is contributing to the high number of cases in Dallas County.
You are headed in the right direction here I believe. It makes sense that Dallas County would have more cases for a variety of reasons:

1. Population Density

2. Exposed Population - Greater concentration of employees in service/retail industries

3. Medical Facilities - Are all cases counted by the residency of the patient or are some of them counted by the hospital? How accurate is that data? There are obviously patients at Dallas County hospitals that reside in other counties. Not sure how that could impact the numbers.

 
Old 07-17-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You are making the assumption that you and others you care about would automatically be excluded from that 10,000 number you are okay with.

You are free to consider it an overreaction. The simple fact of the matter is health is a CRUCIAL factor for a healthy economy. There will be no business as usual as long as a critical mass of people are sick and/or dying. Whether they are sick/ dying from the flu, allergies, hunger, accidents, acts if war, or for no reason at all is completely irrelevant. If its an illness, how sick they can get is extremely relevant. I dont think anyone would be shutting anything down if the worst thing that could happen with this virus is 3/4 days of stay-in-bed, drink fluids sick time. But if hundreds of thousands still needed to stay at home sick for 3-4 days in the same period there would be an effect on the economy even then.

As long as this continues there will be no recovery. For the economy to recover, the population has to first. For that to happen, things have to temporarily change - or a vaccine has to be available so the critical number of people sick at the same time is significantly lower. Nothing short of that.

All the “bravery” in the world wont fix this situation. The hard work of vaccine research will. In the meantime temporary measures to keep it from getting out of hand is all that’s available. Until that hard work is done business as usual will simply not happen. And any attempts at that will be futile.

Many lessons have been learned by the business community during this time and this forced experiment will likely drive new innovation and long overdue changes in certain industries and government. And while some industries are struggling, others are thriving as their products and services have risen in demand. Its not all gloom and doom for everyone if the latest quarterly releases in the last week are anything to go by.

As for debt, People tend to stop borrowing and spending when the economy trends downward. Increasing unemployment and the resulting familial strife is always a concern but is an inevitable side effect of most situations that have an effect on the economy.

Unfortunately the ways to control and end this (Vaccines, Distancing, masks) are the very things that people have politicized and many are now fighting against. So here we are 7 months later and still peaking in Texas. Third world countries have contained this virus better than we have.
I agree with all of this. Great post.
 
Old 07-17-2020, 11:59 AM
 
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Hospitalizations are counted by the hospitals, without regard to residency of the patient. Cases and deaths are counted by residency of the patient, in more than 99% of the cases.

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You are headed in the right direction here I believe. It makes sense that Dallas County would have more cases for a variety of reasons:

1. Population Density

2. Exposed Population - Greater concentration of employees in service/retail industries

3. Medical Facilities - Are all cases counted by the residency of the patient or are some of them counted by the hospital? How accurate is that data? There are obviously patients at Dallas County hospitals that reside in other counties. Not sure how that could impact the numbers.

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Old 07-21-2020, 12:07 PM
 
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Any update on how things are in the DFW area... Hope no news is good news and virus is on the downward curve
 
Old 07-21-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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Any update on how things are in the DFW area... Hope no news is good news and virus is on the downward curve
I think we’re all just kind of numb to it now. 14+ days of 1,000 new cases. Last week was the biggest week of deaths yet though the last two days were much lower. And parents are digesting the fact that their kids will be doing virtual school for at least 3 weeks (and realistically much longer than that) in most local districts.

Some maybe good news - we do seem to have leveled off at 1,000ish cases a day but I don’t know if that’s a function of the limits of daily testing x a high positive rate or not.
 
Old 07-21-2020, 12:56 PM
 
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Hospitalization numbers look better than last week. We reached around 73% capacity for 4200 beds occupancy and around 72% for 675 ICU beds occupancy last week. It has reduced to the following numbers:
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Here are the bed and ventilator capacity statistics for today as reported by 25 hospitals in the City of Dallas:

Total beds: 5975
Beds occupied: 3915 (66%)
Total ICU beds: 921
ICU beds occupied: 625 (68%)
Total ventilators: 974
Ventilators in use: 378 (39%)

New Daily Deaths in Dallas county yesterday: 1 (Total deaths 526 to date)
New Daily Deaths in DFW yesterday: 6 (Total deaths 978 to date)
 
Old 07-21-2020, 01:01 PM
 
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Frankly, I do not see any pattern that we can establish between testing, number of positive cases, hospitalizations and deaths. This all seem to be quite random to me. Based on the positive cases numbers in the last week of June and 1st week of July, there was projection that we would reach max hospitalization capacity and spike in deaths for Dallas county and DFW. In my opinion, it never happened. There were a couple of days of more than 15 deaths per day in Dallas county. But it has gone back to below 5. Average number for daily deaths for Dallas county has remained under 4 per day.

Here is the new news cycle that I am projecting to happen in the coming days: The cases have reduced due to mandated masks wearing in the last couple of weeks. Data and timing of the surge/decline does not reflect that narrative, in my opinion.

I do support mask wearing and social-distancing.


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I think we’re all just kind of numb to it now. 14+ days of 1,000 new cases. Last week was the biggest week of deaths yet though the last two days were much lower. And parents are digesting the fact that their kids will be doing virtual school for at least 3 weeks (and realistically much longer than that) in most local districts.

Some maybe good news - we do seem to have leveled off at 1,000ish cases a day but I don’t know if that’s a function of the limits of daily testing x a high positive rate or not.

Last edited by CDContribuitor; 07-21-2020 at 01:11 PM..
 
Old 07-21-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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Any update on how things are in the DFW area... Hope no news is good news and virus is on the downward curve
https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas...ime-in-18-days
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/coronavi...ounty/2410593/
 
Old 07-21-2020, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Well, Tarrant County has decreed that all non religious schools have to have distance learning until 11:59 PM on September 27. I wonder if Dallas County will push back their date after this.
 
Old 07-21-2020, 04:39 PM
 
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Well, Tarrant County has decreed that all non religious schools have to have distance learning until 11:59 PM on September 27. I wonder if Dallas County will push back their date after this.
My prediction is that most major districts (where extreme social distancing / pods aren’t possible) will not be returning to the classroom this fall or winter. Or if they do, it will last 2 weeks tops before covid shuts down most of the campuses. *This is NOT what I want but I think it is very probable reality.
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